7.5 cm KwK 37 used in Panzer 4 E/F1

Pen mantlet.

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Use J or live with the fact that you have funny times. Its like US in Normandy. Either use 76mm or hide with your Jumbo behind the front.

Yeah I know. T-50 is Moscow Jumbo. Only faster and a bit easier to pen :sweat_smile:

Det packs are da wey.

Well the problem is I cant really force my shells to penetrate, I can shoot at the mantlet and still get deflected.

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You sure about that? I’d think the panther has no problems with it.

If it’s not hiding behind a lake or on a cliff 200m in the greyzone.

And if you hit and it doesn’t get deflected, the breech or mgs eat it.

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I’m sure. Unlike jumbo, t-50 doesn’t need a lvl 30+ to get countered RELIABLY.

Also, most t-50 players are not really good, they just got gold order and got it early…

T-50 needs to be flanked to be damaged and as i said front armor only takes dmg if you are very close with 75mm. Smart tanking sometimes is not an option if the T-50 is sniping and camping in the gray zone.

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Well. I dont know how this can happen as this means you always hit the upper part of the mantlet of the T-50 for some reason.

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You’re right, it doesn’t. Wait, what was the GRB level again? Like 28 or something? So yeah, not lvl 30+, but close enough. Cause as far as I’m aware, the only reliable counter to it that doesn’t involve sacrificing yourself for the emperor is the GRB.

I believe the 37mm can go throw the turret at 100 meters but I need to go back to the practice range to reaffirm that believe

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Both are similiar as only one tank (two if you count the Firefly) can pen the Panther and one (two with the Prem. IV) the T-50.

Also pz4 gun can pen every soviet(and one shot them).
45mm can’t but reload same.

Make unpopular tank more unpopular. Good plan walker.

T-60 don’t have any chance against pz4/pz3(without b).
T-26/BT-7 don’t have chance if pz4 see them.
Are pz4 need nerf?

Can you stop spamming topic at level “Germany suffer”?

Well then we are probably playing entirely different games ? Perhaps my enlisted didnt get the memo that mantlet is 100% pen spot.

Yes yes, germans get the mauser at early levels and soviets have to grind to get TT.
Clearly soviets suffers.
Now you have brought your argument and can leave.

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You overreact. Sry wrong word.

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Bad gun for fifty tank in campaign.
Its good gun for t26/bt7 but not for t50.

Pz4 can one shot every soviet tanks, t50 can’t,because this 45mm gun are shit.
45mm can pen every Germany tanks because germany tanks has shit armor.

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I heard your opinion mr clown.
Now you can stop it spamming.

And if necessary the commader hatchet is usually safer in terms of post-pen.

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Hardly, as according to you its a easy pen on mantlet.
While for some odd reason for the rest of us it aint.

Excluding the T50. The mantlet isn’t reliable. It takes multiple shots to pen. You have to flank to kill reliably. And T28 you can’t one shot from the front. You need 2 usually. (not a problem, but still not as easy as you described)

it can. It 1 shots the early tanks and 2 shots the later ones. Never had a problem taking down any german tank with my bt7.

Better than making 50% of axis tanks unusable due to T50 spam.

It has a chance against the E as well. The rest require flanking. But it’s not a big deal, as it’s decent against infantry and you don’t have to use it for long.

They do. They’re basically a completely equal matchup. I play both the bt7 and panzer 4 a lot and I can tell you, they have no problems taking out each other. it’s just down to player skill.

no. They’re very equal to the T28. The only difference is that the T28 gets more mgs.

T50 is op. If you don’t think so, play germany a bit and you’ll change your mind. And outside of that, yes they have worse stuff. The LMGs are good, that’s about it.

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