like lets be historically accurate here troops wore helmets for a reason and they were quite effective at deflecting most mid velocity wadcutter style projectiles like smg’s ,pistols and carbine guns use
instead of instakilling the soldier how about making the 1st headshot remove the soldiers helmet…
removing the helmet shouldn’t apply if the bullet hits an exposed part of the face below the helmet, in that case it actually should kill since its hitting exposed flesh instead of a Kevlar reinforced helmet
What ammo in game isn’t spitzer besides shotguns and handguns?
Anyway helmets already sometimes stop the first shot. But what constitutes a helmet is inconsistent.
Back in closed beta we were trying to figure out why pistols sometimes OHK from hesdshots and sometimes don’t. Turns out the answer was helmets, but guys without helmets still acted like they had them for some reason, and vice versa.
the m1 carbine uses .30 cal wadcutter and the ross rifles .303 cal is also comes in wadcutter which is used in the ross and lee, the M3 smg uses 9mm parabellum which is wadcutter style, do i need to continue…
o.o’? they had a problem implementing a boolean variable to track weather the helmets were on or off? like really if you want to implement something like this you just use 2 head models and switch them when the area designated for the helmet is shot… saves the game a lot of processing power when done that way as appose to actually making the helmets a solid object that detaches from the head…
I’m not sure if helmets were a separate model, but some character models with no helmet got headshot reduction and some models with helmets didn’t, so I think damage is calculated independently of the model.
A bullet is a bullet. Getting shot in the head, helmet or otherwise is almost instant death.
Helmets were made for protection against falling debris, ballistic helmets didn’t appear until the 1980s.
As far as I can tell and remember reading ww2 helmets weren’t bulletproof,
None of them. They ment to protect from shrapnel and headcolisions. None were bulletproof,
There are various articles, tests and even YouTube videos os people shooting ww2 helmets with small caliber weapons and penetrante them with ease
So yeah, 1 hit kill as headshot, I m OK with it,
not really, the reason im bringing it up is because the real life physics behind how a WW2 helmet responds to a wadcutter bullet vs a spitzer bullet, the helmet vs a wadcutter will usually just dent and you’ll have a bit of a headache from getting your bell rung
and yea i have seen those youtube video’s also the wadcutters usually won’t penetrate and if they do its never through all the layers
Let’s be historically accurate then - helmets were worn as protectiuon against shrapnel - not bullets.
any protection they gave against any bullets was a bonus, incidental and - way back in the day - not actually tested for at all…
but this is illuminating…
The Ross rifle especially wouldn’t be magically stopped by being wadcutter
yea i guess at that range then yea straight through but the ranges most people are getting nailed in the game are like 4-5x so velocity falloff over range does play a bit of a factor
Maybe, but still, they weren’t ment to stop a bullet.
And right now they do work as intended. Long range with a pistol you won’t 1 shot a guy in the head, anything besides that, a 1 hit kill its a plausible and expected outcome,
So 1 hit kill in the head, yeah, keep it this way
lol ehh guess i might just be getting too picky about complete accuracy 
Helmets were actually primarily used to protect against normal head injuries like hitting your head against something, and shrapnel from artillery or grenades. It’s only like 1-3mm of steel and would require even a lower velocity bullet like from SMGs or Pistols to have traveled a decent distance to lose enough energy.
But even those stopped bullets would still kill you:
if a helmet stops a bullet, it will still dent like 2-3cm into your skull, which still kills you. Only reflections off the side would not kill you, and those would likely be near misses if you did not wear your helmet.
Well, helmets were actually originally for shrapnel protection and is a bit joke if sniper is too good and uses FMJ even headshot might not kill you! Yes, Indeed if bullet happens to go throught your brain helmispheres!
Your opinion is bad and this thread is awful.
A helmet will AT BEST stop a smaller caliber round.
Agreed. This game has a pretty low ttk anyways. And a shot to the head being leathal is ok. Don’t know what this nonsense thread is about…
Your opinion is bad and you should feel bad.
Helmets don’t really stop bullets. They were never designed to protect against bullets. They were designed to protect against stray shrapnel from artillery and grenades far away from you as they throw shrapnel over a massive radius.
A bullet to the skull will kill you every time. This isn’t COD where you take 5 bullets to the face and somehow you’re still breathing.