Can confirm. Helmets don’t do anything against rifle caliber bullets but smg/pistols get reduced damage especially at range if hitting the helmet.
Not sure if the angle it hits the helmet actually impacts this since I’ve gotten kills through about half a meter of wood by shooting rifle bullets at a house’s corner.
Even against shrapnel, those helmet’s effectiveness was questionable at best.
I still can’t get over how thin they are and made of steel. It’s like a tincan.
This thread really shows how most people think guns work like call of duty or like in action movies 
-.-the helmet in said given video stopped a 45. cal pistol at like 12 feet.... this isnt an opinion its a clear fact there’s also something called ‘Falloff velocity’ where a bullet will lose speed AKA its penetrating power over large distances which is exacerbated when using wadcutter rounds because they have such a large surface area as appose to spitzer type ammo which is pointed to be aerodynamic as possible
Here’s a chart for how different 45 acp rounds are affected by distance:
The ww2 helmet were not bulletproof. They were mostly for artillery which in ww1 killed most people.
In Todays world the British Mark 6 and 7 (2010) are just fine with AKM round. Also just because the bullet didnt pierce the helmet it does not mean the soldier would be conscious or even alive due to head trauma from broken skull.
your also just using the german m40 metal bucket helmets as the sole point of comparison americans used kevlar reinforced M1 helmets which are slightly stronger and when bullets penetrate the outer shell they can sometimes be directed down the side of the helmet by the inner kevlar layers instead of just continuing through the skull, and as you can see a lot of the bullets at 75-100 yards drop nearly 100fps which is the range im talking about… like i said earlier on in this post, “at closer ranges yea sure they’ll punch through” 
At 100 yards the average bullet is still carrying 75-85% of its energy. In real life 75% would still punch right through most if not all ww2 helmets unless impacting at a severe angle. Also, if you’re shooting at 100 yards with something pistol caliber you’re definitely not using a 5 inch barrel. This means the muzzle velocity and thus energy transfered will be significantly higher than what is on these charts. And if we’re talking about in game, at 100 yards in game pistols dont one hit kill to the head even if they don’t hit the helmet.
bullet speed = bullet penetration power, its an equation that reigns true to to day… even losing 50fps is enough to turn a penetration into just a large dent, the bullet that comes out of the barrel of your gun weighs just a couple grams its not that entire shell you load into it… the mass of the bullet is like 5-10% of the weight of the whole cartridge so a loss in the bullets velocity will actually have a bigger effect then you would think
You are so wrong it makes my head hurt. WW2 helmets dont stop rifle rounds at all and the impact of a pistol round will cave your skull in. Please post some links where you are getting this info of WW2 helmets stopping all the things you claim
You mean a 2cm deep dent that cracks your skull and kills you instantly?
You’re completely ignoring the fact that my chart literally shows the energy of the rounds. ftlbs of force is ftlbs of force. This takes into account a change in velocity. You can see the effects right on the table I’ve provided. You’re also assuming that this helmet is at the critical threshold to prevent penetration, which it is not even close to being.
This is fine.
WW2 helmets were by no means able to stop a bullet, with all respect, this would only make this game worse and more laughable, so I have to say no to that.
sounds to me like a bot whos mad about dying to often from Headshots hahahahaha. WW2 Helmets DONT STOP Rifle Ammo .Thats a Fact. This Thread is just stupid and need to be deleted
Spitzer is just a fancy word for “pointed”, a technological advancement that every army represented in game was using since well before WW2 ever kicked off.
A rifle bullet is a rifle bullet.
Snipers generally fired the same ammunition as everybody else, from the same rifle as everybody else, only it was usually equipped with a telescopic sight and the guy using it who had demonstrated superior marksmanship abilities. Snipers didn’t so much use “special” weapons and ammunition as much as they could be relied upon to hit what they would shoot at.
As far as period helmet bullet proofedness, various people have tested them over the years, no helmet of the period could be relied upon to stop rifle or pistol rounds fired within their respective effective ranges ( 25 and 300 or so meters respectively).
Said video is a pile of BS, nothing more. You have no clue what you’re talking about. You know less than children in their first year of school do. Stop using Hollywood as a source for information.
Even in todays world, the outfit a soldier gets, helmet, eye protection, knee pads, etc a helmet won’t do much other than stop shrapnel, debris, and whatever other junk is flying around in combat. The majority of that gear is to protect him from various junk, not bullets. Anyway, back to WW2 helmets.
For WW2 helmets, the only situation where a helmet could keep you alive, is if the gun is fired from extreme rangers, which never happens in this game. All engagements are set at ranges where you just don’t survive, they will and do punch through the helmet.
Wrong, WW2 american M1 helmets are practically a pot of steel. And btw, even modern kevlar reinforced helmets don’t stop bullets. They will stop fragments and some glancing small caliber rounds, but otherwise, nope. And that’s modern equipment.
Just leave the thread, you know so little about history and military equipment not to mention physics it’s embarrassing for your entire school system.
this seems like it’s still the case. I’ve shot a guy with a field cap the other day and a shower of sparks came out of his hat.
They wore the helmet to give them a CHANCE at surviving very glancing rifle rounds, small shrapnel bits, and small falling debris. The St Chamont tank is infamous for having armor that could be penetrated by service pistols. And here you are, telling me that a helmet thats probably LESS thick than that armor, could stop a rifle round going hundreds of meters a second designed to kill a man with ease. OK BUDDY.
TL;DR: Fuck off thats stupid
I mean there are some ballistic helmets out there now rated as Class III, which stops 7.62 NATO FMJ rounds. But most helmets are rated Class IIIA, which is handgun rounds.
No, class IIIA only stops pistol rounds, it is NOT rifle rated armor. Class IV stops rifle stuff, needs plates.
