should I start to list the insanity in the ships on war thunder of the soviets or the list a dude make in reddit about the fake stuff who other nations have?, before point the Ho-Ri point the other nations first 
I’ve always considered WT a paper tank trash can so I really don’t know what happens there
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Removing it just because “muh it never existed” makes no sense, especially if that nation needs it, i don’t think the fact that only a blueprint or a photo of a wooden mockup remains justifies its removal, is also an interesting tank
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you speak again of Ho-Ri, pointing ONLY to that specific tank, are you butthurt or what, I already explained if Ho-Ri disappear from war thunder, they should do with the other fake stuff of other nations as well
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You’re missing the point that this monstrosity that we have in game never had a blueprint or mockup, it’s made up.
WT never removes vehicles because they are paper, they remove them when they are fake even as paper.
“but muh belens” doesn’t make sense when the item is imaginary.
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I couldn’t care less about what they should do in WT, if they remove all the fakes of all countries I’d be happy for them.
I’m talking about Enlisted, no need to be butt hurt about WT yourself.
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and you keep and keep, no dude, they said wt is one enlisted other
I’m pretty sure the wooden model is real, as is the blueprint, but i can’t tell you anything about the armor stats, etc…
The idea of the Ho-Ri is indeed real and there were plans but what is currently in game is barely connected to that and entirely made up. Which is why WT is removing but separate games don’t have to do the same thing.
The mockup was most assuredly real but the armour values are based in conjecture rather than a concrete figure.
I want more paper tanks. In fact, I want tanks that never even existed on paper and are just imaginary designs like World of Tanks has
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The dimensional wooden mock-up of Ho Ri I might be real, indeed.
Though the flat frontal glassis most likely was a timesaving measure for the model and not an actual plan.
However, even the only engineering blueprint that ever existed was the one for the Jagdtiger-looking Ho Ri II (on Chi Ri chassis), but much, much weaker than what we have ingame.
Japan never hoped for/planned to/had any feasible idea to build something on the level of Tiger 2 or IS 2.
so you want japan to start having what others nations have, but " captured " ?
cause the only way to balance japan as far vehicles goes, it’s by literally by giving the shermans, maybe IS2s and … somehow convince that i was captured in the battle of manchuria or something else.
not that i care for that ho ri. i never even bought it.
but i can understand as far " identity " goes for the nation.
rather than a copy and paste.
Which i wouldn’t mind, but most do.
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Not at all.
The developer should have known that the Japanese didn’t have, and couldn’t possibly have had, tanks on par with the Tiger II or IS-2 during WWII.
They should have done their research and found out that Ho-Ri in WT is fake, if that wasn’t obvious already.
Introducing fakes and fantasy vehicles meant digging their own grave in advance.
Japan should never have gone past BR3.
Now that the developer has already dug this grave for themselves, I don’t envy them.
However, I see at least a compromise solution: all the fever-dream “balance” nonsense like the Ho-Ri (2017), Auto Hei, Su-9 (1946), Hyde AR, and other AS-44 BS could be moved to BR6.
In BR6, all maps would be available, and everyone could play against everyone (like the Japanese fighting the Germans in Stalingrad, etc.) so that the “balance crowd” can have their fun.
At the same time, this balanced BR6 would have a ±0 matchmaking rule, meaning it only pits players against each other. Balanced. Diverse. Fun (I guess?).
Meanwhile, BR 1–5 would be purged of insanities like King Tigers in Stalingrad or T-26s in Berlin, providing a grounded, normal WWII experience.
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and you think we have enough players for 4/5 br brackets?
( technically would be 6. ideally. but currently it’s just 1-2, 2-3, 3-5 )
I haven’t seen any statements from the devs claiming we have too few players.
And some people are often calling for ±0 BR MM in general.
On the other hand, if we care about player retention, I know at least several potential players who saw T-28 in Berlin, heard Chinese in Moscow and asked me to kindly never invite them to “WW2” games like this ever again.
And I don’t blame them.
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yet we still don’t have said ±0 BR
… go figure.
cause they are not the main target audience?
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Personally I would say ±1 BR brings more fun and more variety than ±0 even if we have gazillion of players.
And where is this target audience defined by the devs?
After all, official statements claim:
(I invited them shortly before the Merge, they were generally happy, then left spitting when it happened)
to each their own.
imo, br 0 is kinda better.
and having options to chose is even better.
but i digress.
by what they made and the lead game developer stirred the ship towards.
hate to break it to ya, but the majority of ww2 games for the most part, are arcades and filled with anacronistic or straight up fictional battles, equipment etc.
as if marketing that lies is a new thing.
( though, was to be expected given it’s under gaijin “wings”. the signs were all there from the first alpha that ever dropped )
but from what i can see, it’s pretty much a subjective opinion.
foundamental line is, it would be like me saying that i’m rich while flexing rentals.
would that really be the truth?
or me making shit up.
doesn’t really differ.
because enlisted never has been, never was and never will be historical authenthic.
maybe the weapons, and some of the vehicles.
Like, it HAS elements, but that’s pretty much it.
if anything, enlisted is the definition of " history channels at 1am "
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that’s exactly what I told him, because OH SURPRISE, they did that in real life, in fact, many stuff from muricand and their allieds, end in hands of the japs, but oh well, what we can expect?, in fairness wt if they delete ho-ri, they should do same with soviet ship branch, the other nation half fake tanks, etc.