I’m surprised because this is BR5
Snipers can cause huge damage to the game, especially in high BR rooms.
I don’t want to hear shit about newbies needing to practice, if they want to practice they should go to low BR
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Why we should limit full auto weapons?
I’m surprised this is a ww2 game about making more www weapons including infantry weapons and any vehicles and explosives
Only full auto weapons’ gameplay can cause huge damage to the game, especially in a game as backgroud of WW2.
I don’t want to hear shit about pewpewpew is fun in FPS game, if they want to pewpewpew they should go to some pure FPS gamemode with only full auto weapons as major gameplay
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Even a game like Red Orchestra 2, which lacks automatic weapons
Restrictions on snipers are still very strict
Bolt-action rifle guards and snipers are two different things. No player of the same type of game likes his teammates to escape from the front line and hide in a safe area to fire cold shots.
Even if I only have a bolt-action rifle, I can still be active at the forefront of the battlefield and rush in front of my teammates. This is a matter of attitude in the game rather than a matter of weapons.
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Leading a group of under-equipped players against well-equipped players is harmful.
Because it’s impossible to win
I can understand having a lot of poorly equipped monkeys or cannon fodder at level 3
But I often encounter monkeys and parasites that are not fully equipped at level 5.
They are ignorant and stupid and don’t know how to use spawn points and smoke
They will just hide behind passive attack AI all day long and will even use artillery fire on buildings with ceilings.
Even if you complete all the preparation and support by yourself
They will still wait in line to be shot and waste combat resources and even parasitic vehicles.
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Maybe the official should try some secret modifications
Players who only have a small amount of level 3 equipment will not be queued to level 5 rooms (for example, no more than 2 items per team and no more than 10 items in total)
Rather than preventing a small number of experts from killing newcomers,
It’s better to stop a group of cannon fodder from running into a high-level environment to poison friendly forces.
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Why we should limit whining
I’m surprised because this is BR 5 and still there are people who haven’t accepted how the game works yet.
Whiners can cause huge damage to the game, especially demanding restrictions on how other players should be enjoying the game.
I don’t want to hear shit about tryharders needing to win every time, if they want to win they should team up with other tryharders.
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Just because it is BR 5 does not mean newer player will not join in:
Examples
A): returning player from pre-merge: may have Early campaign stuff from Berlin that is BR IV-V (biggest culprit is the T34 - 85 which was the starting tank … so as long as you opened Berlin you have it.
B): Event rewards are many times higher BR … this means that a new player may obtain them and not realize
C): Premium purchases…need I say more
D): Party with a higher tier player, that does not tier down them.
That being said, Should DF limit snipers? I say no. 1 reason, you can get snipers in other squads so its not as simple as just limiting the squad. 2. Some people do main snipers, and are quite effective with them (though, I will admit that “good snipers” are not the majority of them). 3. There are BR IV and V snipers in the trees. 4. Sniper is one of the 3 starting squads (though I would absolutely agree with replacing this with the engineer squad (hint hint wink wink DF :P)
One thing I have found with newer players and the reason they often find snipers more appealing. They don’t know the maps Sniping allows them to take it slower and learn from a distance … though some just never learn / learn very slowly). Others, play this game to relax, and sniping allows that. There is nothing wrong with sniping in of itself.
I think the actual issue is the NPE is not sufficient enough for many to learn the ropes quickly enough, as such, I think NPE needs to be drastically improved in this game … both for player quality in matches, and for better player retention. This ranges from new player matches being extended, with a “good player exit system” in place to QOL changes such as new player XP boosts etc and vast UI improvements to make them more new player intuitive (which the current UI is not).
I will also add, that when I recommended to restrict number of certain squads, it was not received positively. Even when DF announced intention of limiting carousel / cycle to 2 of a certain type it was changed due to player reaction. So I highly doubt it will occur anyway. After seeing some of the points made, I ended up changing my mind regarding it…eventually.
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first stop bringing up niche games second of all the problems snipers is low on the list
1 gray zone tanks
2 kamikazis
3 grenade span
4 anti p mines
5 full auto guns
6 snakes, players that spend almost the entire game won their bellies
and ect ect ect
Of course I accept the way the game works, I just want it to be better, and indulging player behavior will not make the game better
Looking through your history book, does every nerf to the game infringe on the player’s right to enjoy the game? Semi-automatic rifles, light machine guns, white phosphorus grenades, explosive packs, and anti-aircraft guns, aren’t these players enjoying the game? But they are still weakened
When we mentioned some issues, some people jumped out and said sanctimoniously: Oh no, we have to respect all players.
Yes, then this “perfect” game does not need to be improved. Let us ignore these problems. All your complaints are hurting the players who “enjoy” this gameplay. Then please strengthen all the things that have been weakened and return to 2021 Year
I can harass players with spam like anti-aircraft cannons and explosive packs.
None of them can complain because I want to “enjoy” this spam and none of you can infringe on my rights
This is called double standard
I think the BR system is a good mechanism. When you enjoy snipers or bolt-action rifles, you can go to low BR rooms where the environment is very good.
But BR5 is filled with a large number of automatic weapons. This is a fierce and cruel battlefield. Why do you have to come here?
Or the developers did not explain their BR system well, causing many novice players to go into BR battles that they are not suitable for. I also mentioned this problem earlier.
Go to BR1 and you can solve these problems
I agree, but it does need some tweaks
There are BR III-V sniper rifles. Therefore this isnt as easy. Heck there is a BR III Bolt Action Sniper rifle.
Some people like a challenge, others don’t know better … which leads to my NPE improvement comment.
This is true, at least not in game where most people need it to be.
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Players with early items cannot be that weak
Unless they are extremely incompetent
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If I remember correctly
After the big update, there are only 2 activities where you can obtain level 3 or 5 equipment and teams.
The latest event reward, Rusty PPD, is level 2, so it is impossible to mix it into level 3.
Just like the moderator picture you can barely see these things on the battlefield
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As mentioned in 2
You can hardly see them using premium and paid equipment on the battlefield
They always use lever rifles and sniper rifles
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I’m not sure there are that many high-level players who want to recruit a bunch of cannon fodder to die.
Not to mention that this is an act of espionage to poison teammates.
It is impossible for newcomers to have much patience to grow in a high-pressure environment.
Officials should at least try not to let these monkeys and bugs poison the high-end environment
This is a bad thing for both newcomers and veterans, as well as for operators
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so what only play half the game Br as the lowest level being dunked on by everyone else, should be up or down a tier, sure in a game with 10 tiers moving up or down 2 makes sense but in a game with fife its broken
These were examples as to why, not an exhaustive list of reasons behind.
There is no SBMM or RBMM in Enlisted … and the MM that we do have with BR … takes into account only the highest BR used. A single BR III is enough.
How many Gold Orders have been available?
Many just care about playing with friends more than they do about winning. I’ve seen it plenty of times where one player recruits a friend or two to play and because they have BRIII+ equipment they drag the whole part. Do I agree with it, no…I think they should actively adjust to BR II capped, but let’s be honest … many do not know, especially those that are casual and dont pay attention to patchnotes and the community.
Again, not an exhaustive list, just some examples to think about. Its not all malicious … its more unknowing I think … as such … I think its a NPE/UI problem over a thing that needs to be limited.
as far as I know
Even after the merger, veterans can directly obtain novice equipment and vehicles.
Even if you only played Stalingrad before, you will get a machine gun tank after the merger
Therefore, the merger will have almost no impact on veteran players.
Unless they just want to poison the high-end environment with incomplete equipment
As said before
Regardless of activity, gold card, payment
You can hardly see this low-powered group using any advanced equipment
They clearly knew that his incomplete equipment was obviously unable to defeat high-level enemies, but they still chose to use it?
So they deliberately used incomplete equipment in high-level fields to poison friendly forces?
In my eyes, this is something worse than a high-level player convoy.
Convoys only poison the enemy, and players who deliberately use incomplete equipment only poison their teammates.
Excellent
Players who fight hard to win need to be poisoned by these ignorant monkeys
And those ignorant monkeys only need to be cannon fodder and parasites to be satisfied.
I guess this isn’t a normal gaming environment
Yes, but you know as well as I do, that there are plenty of people that just use their best equipment.
It only takes 1 of those items, heck if its an SMG in their tank. or the tank itself … if they never get in the tank (as plenty of players don’t like to use the vehicles in the game … they just stick whatever their best one is in the slot). So this is a point, but again … my suggestion resolves around the UI /NPE … which could give alerts to this or something through tooltips.
I would probably say they don’t know … especially if they were premerge players as there was no BR then.
I wouldn’t say it that way (as in they are poisoning), but no SBMM means you WILL play against and with players of all skill and experience levels. Simple as that, to think otherwise is illogical. Now, there have been calls for SBMM and better matchmaking, I personally don’t like SBMM, but others do. Its preference there, and there are plenty of posts regarding that discussion.
Normal is perspective, what is normal to one is abnormal to another.
That being said, I think we are mostly talking past each other … and that includes me. I think that we agree that the current matchmaking is flawed, but differ in thoughts of how to fix it and/or why it is flawed. But in the end the matchmaking does need to improve. I’ll leave it at that.
I think we should primarily limit yourself. Soviet BR5 sniper are extremely good.
So stfu with your incompetency.
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“Something something others should do what I say something something”
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Infantry should not be limited. Because if there is to be a limitation for sniper teams, then also for assault teams. The only class without restrictions should be the basic infantry team.