from my experince the ppd and mp40 are roughly equal ar range(even more so now after the smg visual recoil nerf). but doesnt matter much in smg ranges +ppd has semi mode, which is easier than manually firing single rounds at its rof
I can see that their equal for sureeeee…
yes- here is my short comparison(ppd38 vs mp38, both 1 star from max, first target on the left, fast tap firing on all of them)edit: all standing, none with recoil reduction
ppd auto:
ppd semi:
mp(2 mags):
both look similar, the semi mode evens out the accuracy/recoil advantage of the mp
PPD34/38 fully upgraded, 50m standing, -40 vertical reduction, 71rnds
MP40 fully upgraded, 50m standing, -40 vertical reduction, 32rnds
PPD34/38 PPD34/38 fully upgraded, 50m crouched, -40 vertical reduction, 71rnds
MP40 fully upgraded, 50m crouching, -40 vertical reduction, 32rnds
PPD34/38 fully upgraded, 50m prone, -40 vertical reduction, 71rnds
MP40 fully upgraded, 50m prone, -40 vertical reduction, 32rnds
I think the results speak for themselves.
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How you unlock ppsh at level 2? Also machine gunner at level 2 whoa, we have ‘bit different’ tech tree for soviets…
Just shoot you bullet first. At cqb if you opponent start shooting first it dosnt matter if you use ppd/ppsh/mp40 or what ever. You wont just outgun him before he shots another round unless he misses.
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Unbalance is always intentional, for obvious reasons. My personal suggestions here Bulletproof T-50 - #16 by 96666198
.>It’s difficult to pen T-50 with III J
Lul if we didn’t have the hit indicator i would say ok if you were/are not in WT GRB understandable
And yeah M38 with 20 mag is gae
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We had this conversation way before, I even proposed a 1v1 of you using an mp40 and me PPSh. But in what way does the MP40 have the distance advantage?
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That argument can be said for the mp40 as well, what if the 1 bullet hits the leg? can the mp40 user put more rounds faster than the PPSh wielder? My experience with the PPSh is that it literally has no recoil and mp40 kicks a little more, this comes from a maxed berlin campaign, you seriously cannot compare PPSh and Mp40.
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It has the range advantage, better accuracy, more damage. Due to better accuracy it is harder to hit the legs and arms unlike PPSH.
Thats just my opinion, and the stats speak for themselves. PPSH is better than MP40 in game and IRL. But the MP40 had some advantages IRL and in game
The fact that even an upgraded 7.62 Tokarev cannot 3 shot a person at 100m and 150m, while the MP40 can is really impressive
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mp40 is less likely to hit the legs than PPDS and PPSH are which means it has better accuracy
this is only true if proned. PPSH does have recoil despite popular belief…now what is causing this belief to spread? well it’s the playerbase’s instinct to pull down on their mouse and PPSH’s easy to control recoil since it mostly goes up as seen in this video firing PPSH41 35 mag - YouTube
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Hmmm does the results stay the same every single time? Have you taken account dispersion? Also ppd34/38 has 71 rounds and mp40 has only 32, then of course ppd34/38 is more likely to “miss”. That’s why it’s better if you have a human element testing this hence 1v1.
Nope those guns are pretty accurate in mid range to which is a shame. Got head shotted with the first bullet last game from an PPD. Could got lucky to but i remember them being pretty accurate even on mid range when stealing them…ZH-29 is my new fav Bolt action rifle atm btw…So powerful <3 But Russians SVT overall is still the best since it got best handling with little kick and more ammo
if you throw enough shit at the wall you are bound to get some of it to stick
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Sounds like an vague analogy. You see what you see when handling it and more often then not the Russians can handle themselves in mid range with their smgs
the shit is the bullets in that analogy, so if you use enough bullets then something is bound to happen…also back in CBT germany kept winning most of the battles and the equipment up to lvl 18 remained mostly unchanged, so what happened between now and then to mark the PPDs as OP?
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Berlin its probably the most balanced campaign right now. Agree?
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Friend, the early version of the ppsh at lvl2 you speak about is FAR from being as good as the lvl30 something ppsh… In fact even if the stats say otherwise, it feels like the first Russian smg has such WEAK damage per bullet (maybe the dmg drop per distance is higher than what the stats say) compared to any other smgs… yes it got a good rof, but it’s not amazing by any mean (Id take the mp38/40 any day over it) it’s decent when you obtain the first drum mag ppd though, now that slaps. but not before.
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What hmmmmm? Salty that MP40 is more accurate, even tough stats and other players verify my claims?
If you look closely, PPD goes even to the other target, and please feel free to do this yourself
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