What do you think of the new SPAA squads for moscow?

We know those AA take tank slot.
This show how they make game so one dimensional…

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Tbh i could see this changing over time, the tech tree br system thats coming will likely go through growing pains and i could see them changing vehicle slots and how they work over time especially if they add more utility vehicles like this instead of just tanks and planes

well if they take the tank slot, it will be hard to justify using it… most times right?

not sure…

will be like the bike squad in tunisia. probably.

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Agree with this. Very similar to Tunisia motor squads, that is to say rarely every used or useful.

if player is limited on 4 slots , makes 0 sence to bring bike squad on tunisia… maybe reason we dont see as many.

if player have more slots . maybe , ye.

the issue is that this types of squads, wont come with their unique slot for the people that need them.
not for guys like me. but for f2p players that either choose a nice vehicle or this side unlocks.

a nice vehicle will always be superior to this unlocks… atleast for people with base slots. for them, this should be unlocked with a unique slot to use.

or like the event with the mechs , get certain points and it does appear ingame to be spawned.
or
like the kaytushkas in moscow on the loading screen of voyo map. just be there to be used if needed. no one in the right mind after the initial unlock days, will bring this over a nice tank if base slot user.

imo…

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SPAAGs useless?

People outside Pacific seem to have lost all memories of the time when AA guns had no elevation restrictions, and Flakvierling grew everywhere like moss reaping enemy soldiers in the dozens.

The only way these event vehicles are going to be useless is if they will get the Ta-Se treatment (buggy ammo, zero explosive power).

Otherwise, people will soon remember why being shot at by a rapid-fire 20-23mm autocannon isn’t a pleasing experience. And in addition, this time the autocannon will be able to move and relocate.

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if this happen, people most likely will ask for nerfs , and the elevation restriction we have on normal aa guns will be a thing.

yes it’s useless.
Same as t 60 and pz2.
And those are in Moscow, not a pacific.

You’re right, but I hope not.

Old AAs were nerfed mainly because they were too difficult to take down, being impervious to infantry fire and buggy against cannon shells.

On the other hand, both these two vehicles are more vulnerable. The Flakpanzer has still got a gun shield, but it can’t stop HMG fire, which old Flakvierling never had to face.

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SPAA will be completely useless if its shared with tanker slots.

you have 2 teammates spawned with SPAA, camping behind the trees, killed all planes. but now they just sitting waiting for planes and doing nothing for the entire game, cause you to lose the match

and Free to Play Players. Almost no F2P will spawn with SPAA, you either have to choose a tank, a plane or SPAA, SPAA is the worst class easily out of all 3. they only have 1 vehicle slot, would they pick SPAA?

Answer is no

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good point.

Even if they dont share the same slot as Tanks. They are still frankly liability for the team

2 people spawn as SPAA, they help kills planes sure, but abosolutely useless vs tanks. now you have much less infantry taking objectives.

then u have sniper teammates who snipes all game and do nothing. = again cause you to lose the match

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ye…

agreed.

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Not gonna count for Bots as well, if there was only 4 infantry players available. If there is 3 bots then that means only 1 player is infantry then the game is GG

also yeah, if they really take the tank slots is GG. Cuz if they did nothing but snipe planes in the back all day and do nothing, then that means all tankers cannot play nor utilize their tank

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We already have required about various class of vehicle and cost system, and giving basic AT cannon for defense team(it was too late when the engineers completed the anti-tank gun), but nothing was accepted.

Killing Bombers also gives a ridiculous amount of points, with much less efforts than infantry players
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That means some players will just camp artillery planes all day, without caring if their team win or lose.

So yes best solution would still be increase max number of players from 10 to 12. As it will be too limiting otherwise. (6 players on vehicles, 4 as infantry left)

lack of infantry players would be quite hard actually, or we fully turning into Warthunder

100% agree with your sentiment and reasoning.

Didnt think about this. Ouch. That makes them not only not useful taking up a tank slot but arguably a detriment to your team.

True tho

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AA truck will be good, because the new Soviet AA gun is rather bad.