Weapon BR changes that should be considered

Pavesi M42 BR3 → BR2
(Why? Stats are very similar to the Armaguerra, except the recoil on the Pavesi is much more severe, completely countering the benefit of the little extra damage and velocity)

Sniper Carcano M1891 BR3 → BR2
(Why? A regular 6.5 sniper Carcano is more suited for BR2 than BR3)

Sniper Gewehr 98 BR3 → B2
(Why? The strength of this sniper is not enough to deserve to be BR3)

Gerat 03 BR5 → BR4
(Why? Semi auto rifles do not deserve to be in the same tier as full auto battle rifles. They are simply outclassed by the firepower alone)

STG45(m) BR5 → BR4
(Why? The STG45 has the worst ROF and 2nd worst dispersion of all 8mm Kurz firearms. Even the MKb42 is more optimal)

OG-43 BR4 → BR2
(Why? Darkflow added functionality to para boxes that let their contents change depending on BR. The para flamethrowers should be locked to BR4-5. The paratroopers themselves should be available in BR2. Germany is the only faction to have no paratroopers in BR2)

Erma EMP-44 BR4 → BR3
(Why? It is essentially the same as the MP40/I which is BR3, no justification to be locked 1 tier higher)

Winchester G30M BR3 → BR2
(Why? Germany enjoys 6rnd semi autos on BR2, the USA should be able to use their 5rnd semi auto in the same tier for balance)

Sniper M1C BR5 → BR3
(Why? A sniper garand being stuck in br5 is absurd. This is the tier with Sniper AVS and Sniper FG42 rifles)

Dicker Max tank BR4 → BR3
(Why? It is extremely slow and has little armor plus an open top, making it vulnerable to pretty much any tank or plane. The 105 sherman and 120mm Chi Ha are both below BR4. It should not go BR2 because it does possess AP rounds allowing it to fight back. Glass cannon.)

DPM BR4 → BR3
(Why? The stats are extremely similar to the normal DP, which is USSR’s only free BR3 LMG.)

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I generally hope one day, the BR matchmaking would be changed to BR1-2 BR3-4 and BR5. The first would be the bolt action tier with average SMGs and weak LMGs, while the 2nd tier would be the tier of semi auto rifles, average LMGs, flamethrowers, etc. While the final tier would be assault rifles, battle rifles, and high capacity LMGs

I generally think lumping most of the nice semi auto rifles from the G43 to SVT40 to BR5 with the battle rifles makes these guns never used in any serious manner. There needs to be a dedicated semi auto tier so battle rifles don’t overtake them

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Yeah Kraut sniper choices are a load of bull. The frick is an StG doing with a scope?

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I personally hope that never happens. BR as is right now is the best possible outcome of implementing a BR system

LMFAO.

You and about 1% of others believe that.

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Ah yes. I love only ever fighting X weapons while my teammates only ever have X weapons every single match after match after match. Monotony and predictability are my favorite aspects of FPS games. Love when everyone uses the same thing because it’s “meta”

Part of the fun of Enlisted is the chaos. The randomness of each match. Will the enemy have Kar98k’s? Will they have FG 42’s? Will I bully a Puma Pz II? Will I have to bomb a gray zone Tiger II? Will I do all of these in one match? It’s completely random from one match to another! And it’s fantastic. You don’t have everyone running around with an MP5 with the same attachments because the most recent balancing update made it the new meta

Like I said, you and - as I estimate - 1% of players like the current BR setup. Others just take advantage of it or suffer it. Most dislike it. Good luck arguing that point.

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I don’t need to win over the children who cry because they’re not good enough to take on BR V
I just have to bring enough dissent for DF to realize not everyone wants that change

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LOL.

Keep on keepin’ on.

I’ve not lost a BR3 match. I just don’t think they should exist against BR1 and BR2

Fight fair or go home.

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I do fight fair. I’m an almost Infantry exclusive gamer with a plane for when enemy tanks want to hide. You know what you can use to kill a fleshbag? Literally anything other than a smoke grenade. BR I Boltie? Yep. BR V Auto Rifle? Yep. Shovel? Yep
I also look forward to III-V matches because few things are as satisfying as wiping an StG squad with a BAR or deleting a Tiger II with an M9 or a 500lb’er

As much as the variety is nice, new BR1 players will have a very difficult time against BR3 tanks and weaponry. The same goes for BR3 players fighting assault rifles and battle rifles at BR5. It is simply unhealthy for this severe kind of equipment inbalance to exist.

Imagine a BR2 player with a Panzer 2 trying to fight a BR3 player with a KV-1, now imagine that KV-1 player trying to fight a BR5 player with a Tiger 2

Ultimately, I think fair and equal battles are the most important factor

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Also

PpSh-br5 to br4

Fedorov- br5 to br4 if they slow rpm down to 520

Ppd40-br5 to 4

Avs 36- br5 to 4

Tiger E- br5 to 4

Mkb- to br 4

Kiraly- to br4

Mp717- to br 4

And then change queues to 1-2,3-4 and 5. 1-2 be early to 1943. 3-4 be 1943-late 1944 and 5 be 1944-1945

You keep claiming that - but in reality that only means you want the campaign system back - because you hate BRs you obviously like the current system because it doesn’t work at all.

Your words make no sense - if there are NO BRs - then you would only EVER see FG42 and STG44 and no other weapon unless of course you have people in the game that haven’t unlocked every weapon yet.

The whole point of the BR system is exactly what you want - diverse gunplay. You like boltaction gunplay? Pick low BRs.

Like early SMGs with less dps? Pick low BR.

Like semi auto rifles? Pick mid BR.

Why do keep on lying to yourself?

Personally i think the PPSH deserves a damage nerf, it deals basically the same effective damage as Thompson and MP40 despite having a much smaller bullet.

PPSH box should perform bad enough to sit in BR2 to compete with MP40 - while PPS43 should perform good enough to deserve being in BR3 (which it kinda already does)

PPS41 Drum being in BR5 is ridiculous, that gun should not be as good as it is right now.

Well it doesn’t make any sense to have all STGs have better rate of fire than they had in real life “for balance purposes” - while giving this premium version the real firerate.

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Honestly I use the fedorov over the ppSh-41. So I think the ppSh is fine as is even if dropped to br4. That’s just me speaking though

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I can see what you mean, but 71 rounds of godly mid range accuracy make me think that it really is a insanely powerful weapon.

MkB, Kiraly, and PPSH shouldn’t be BR5 weapons, but I think they should be moved into BR4 with some nerfs in mind.

MKB should have less overall accuracy for being a open bolt gun

Kiraly should deserve some longer reload speed

PPSH seems too accurate for mid range combat.

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I just hope they lower the US military’s anti-tank grenade rifles to level 3
This thing is hard to fight against a tiger at level 5

Build a time machine and take away meth from the nazis I guess Idunno

I can concede that BR I should be an isolated island so newbies can have a safe space

This however isn’t as strong an argument. Skill trumps equipment and someone in BR III should have gained enough skill through I and II to figure out how hold their own for the most part. It’s not that difficult of a game to play unlike WT where every single enemy requires a different knowledge set to deal with (and times where you flat out CANNOT deal with the enemy)

This is not WT. Tank balance is not the end all be all. The main aspect of Enlisted is Infantry that has some Combined Arms Warfare thrown into the mix. Plus, of the ~5 different ways to kill a tank, using another tank is the least reliable method. If you want to deal with enemy tanks, bring a plane. If you want to use your tank but are outclassed, then make darn certain enemy tank never sees you. Or hide yourself best you can. It can be difficult to position yourself in a way to both be helpful to your team and unable to be targeted by enemy armor, but it’s a useful skill nonetheless