USA A-20 Havoc for BR3

The issue:

The Allies are lacking an attack plane (bomber) with good payload on BR3.
While other nations get BF 110 F-2 with 2 x 250 kg bombs, Pe-2 with 6 x 100 kg bombs and Soviet Boston with 4 x 100 kg bombs, even Japan gets their B5N2 with 2 x 250kg bombs, the kings of bombing stuff (USA) don’t get a single true bomber option on BR3.


Proposed solution No.1:

Copy the Soviet A-20 Boston MK.3 and turn it into an American A-20B Havoc.

With about 1000 made, the A-20B was the backbone of American light bombing during the Tunisian Campaign (1942–1943).

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While changing the armament accordingly as follows:

  • 4 x 100 kg => 4 × 250 lb bombs
  • 12.7 mm Berezin MG => 12.7 mm M2 Browning

Poll - add A-20B Havoc, a copy of the Soviet Boston?

  • Yes, add A-20B Havoc on BR3
  • No
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Proposed solution No.2:

Adjust the payload of A-20G-25 and drop it down to BR3 from BR4.

There are currently two A-20s on BR4 – do we really need them both?

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Given that this crazy experimental thing is on BR3, it might not be too far fetched to just drop A-20G-25 to BR3 without changes?

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Poll - adjust A-20G-25 if needed and drop down to BR3?

  • Drop A-20G-25 to BR3 without any changes
  • Drop A-20G-25 to BR3 but with less armament
  • Keep A-20G-25 as is on BR4 but add the copied A-20B to BR3
  • No BR changes and no new BR3 planes
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Cheers.

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Guess the answer depends on how american 500 lbs bombs compare to 250 kg bombs on the counterparts and if the devs want a symetrical game or not.

Don’t use the xa 38 to set an example… it’s an under tiered vehicle and i honestly think it was a fuck you to the germany players upset about the 110 g2 change i cannot remember if that was added after other though but regardless.

If anything you should be using the a20 as a reason why xa 38 should be uptiered… that suggestion is a topic dead on arrival though i can almost assure that along with it not being the point

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Okay Mr German main who wanted a swastika armband if japan got rising sun headbands…
Yes, I saw your comment on that other post,
I know you want Germany to be the strongest on every tier and so on but don’t make it so obvious…

“German main”

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He’s right, though. Everyone is saying the XA is OP

“All other BR3 attackers get really good bomblloads”, proceeds to list underpowered and overtiered attack aircraft.

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Are you trying to say the Xa-38 is balanced at BR3

This might initiate an arms race, players will request tech tree br3 1000kg bomb attacker for every faction.

This is your quote, not mine.

Indeed. That’s why my no.1 suggestion is simply giving USA a bomber with more or less same payload as other nations.

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“A good bombload = 400kg of bombs”

This is again your quote, not mine.

My quote can be summed up as “other factions have planes with 400kg of bombs, while USA don’t have one”.

Bro doesn’t have the Xa-38

I don’t really see the point of copy paste when there are still other options available in War Thunder.
Also you can’t simply copy paste A-20 Boston MK.3 and turn it into an American A-20B Havoc by only changing the armaments. The turret on the back is a soviet-made UTK-1 turret.

What will you bet I don’t have it?

Good point, didn’t notice that.

Maybe the model from WT could work better?

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I’m just trying to suggest the least costly and the easiest ideas for the one-and-a-half devs still left working on Enlisted and not Active Matter/WT Infantry.

Copying the Soviet Boston must be easier than porting a WT vehicle and animating it from scratch?

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If you have it then your statement about America not having a BR3 attacker is wrong.

That be in my said, you should’ve had an option to move the M8 A-20 down to BR3.

  1. XA is not in the tech tree, while other nations have bombers with bombs in their tech trees.
  2. XA is a prototype which had 0 WW2 combat so I don’t want to use it.
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  1. There you go
  2. You have no right to complain about bombloads if you don’t wanna use the plane with the best bombload till BR5