Uprising Campaigns

I had idea whitch could be interesting, at least for me.
It is about new Campaign type named - Uprising, whitch woudnt be about 2 big nations fighting for some area, but about people who made uprising in Prague or Warsavh and are trying to destroy their enemy while waiting for support (both of these are waiting for Red army).

How it could work

  • In these two cases, it took a while for the Germans to arrive to avert this uprising, before the real fight began, the insurgents would have a while to secure their positions, using huge barricades across the roads (predetermined, only need to be built) and small ones in the alleys (the player decides on their position)

  • The Germans have a considerable advantage, so there is no doubt that they will start winning quickly, the whole game would not be about maintaining certain points but about holding for a few minutes (before the Allies arrive)

  • Boxes of supplies would be placed all over the map, ammunition, grenades, better weapons, etc. The insurgents would have to constantly look for better weapons, which would be in these boxes.

  • Since they are mostly native inhabitants, they would know their homeland much better, so they would have a more detailed map with various alleys, canals, etc.

Specific for Warsaw Uprising

  1. Since most insurgents didn’t even have a weapon, there would be a chance that a member of your unit would not show up with a weapon or with some other

  2. Since everyone was involved in the uprising, it would be possible to see a woman or even a some really younger characters.

  3. Since the Soviet Union never really wanted to help with the uprising, after the past time, the Germans would still attack much more strongly, untill they win, in this case rebels still win

Poles

Planes - they have none, they are forced to defend themselves only with the help of German technology

Tanks - Really little, what they have are just capture ones, but they have anti-tank guns at their disposal (stational)

Troops - Rifles prepared during the occupation, mainly German, can also appear Polish rifles

Assaulter - similiar with troopers, maximum of 3 submachine guners in squad

Engineer - Very important for the game, able to build barricades and various anti-tank or anti-aircraft weapons, they are unlocked right at the beginning and have a larger capacity than German engineers

Gunner - As with troopers, only 2 with a machine gun, which may be from the First World War

Sniper - It unlocks later, has much better conditions for its work thanks to better positions for defenders, its markings are colored differently and last longer.

Mortarman - It unlocks almost at the end, there can be only one with a cannon in the unit

Bomber - It has a larger capacity for anti-tank grenades and possibly mines, anti-tank rifle and rocket launcher will be unlocked later

Radio Operator - Longer waiting time due to the reluctance of the Soviet Union

Flametrooper - due to high costs, this unit is unlocked as last in campaign

Germans

Planes - due to the end of the war they have a minimum of them available, and it is necessary for them to land for fuel more often due to poor condition

Tanks - They have tanks of all kinds, but due to the small space in the streets, they can easily be destroyed from buildings

Troops - the latest equipment, they quickly reach semi-automatic rifles

Assaulter - Due to a possible attack from Soviet unin, they send only small units, max 4 (they can all have a submachine gun)

Engineer - due to the small number of enemy tanks, anti-tank cannons are unlocked only with the second tier, they have a much smaller amount of material

Gunner - They have the best machine guns available, due to well-placed barricades, etc. they have worse conditions to fight.

Sniper - Minimum space for real efficiency, but has the best equipment available

Mortarman - unlocks really soon, they can prevent the rebels from moving between the defensive positions

Bomber - They are unlocked later, due to lack of enemy vehicles, they have a rocket launcher immediately available

Radio Operator - It can be used similarly to a mortar, but for a shorter time

Flametrooper - It unlocks in the middle, very good for buildings

Specific for Prague Uprising

  1. Thanks to the help of the Vlasovci follicles, rebels have really strong soldiers as their second tier

  2. The insurgents can use armored trains for good defense

  3. As the Germans try to reach the Americans as quickly as possible, they are limited by time, after its expiration they are forced to surrender

Czechs and Vlasovci

  • After some time, some insurgent units are merged with Vlasov units who have much better equipment

Planes - Really similar to Polish, they have none available

Tanks - Thanks to the Vlasovci, they have a similar number of tanks at their disposal as the Germans, but they will be unlocked after 1.5 minutes

Troops - Since the insurgents consist of really experienced soldiers and gendarmes, they have 2 stars available from the beginning, their equipment consists of German and Czech rifles

Assaulter - Czech insurgents have similar conditions at their disposal as the Polish, but with the help of the Vlasovci, whitch are available after 1.5 minutes, they obtain similar weapons as the Germans have

Engineer - similar to the Polish ones, they can repair and modify trains

Gunner - Like the troops of Poland, after time they are
improved by Vlasovci

Sniper - As with Polish sniper, they can have a pistol from the beginning

Mortarman - These units will be unlocked as the arrival of the Vlasovs, until then they will be available in really small quantities, similar to Poland

Bomber - Similar to Poland, just that anti-tank rifles are available from the beginning and with the arrival of the Vlasovci have rocket launchers

Radio Operator - Thanks to the support of the Vlasovci, they can be used very early, they are ideal for delaying the movement of Germans

Flametrooper - These units are unlocked only with Vlasovci, they have a very small number

Germans

Planes - They have quite a nice number of aircraft, but they are already damaged

Tanks - Well-armed, as with aircraft, they are quite damaged, they can have a problem moving between the streets

Troops - They consist of really well-trained soldiers who have semi-automatic rifles available almost from the beginning

Assaulter - Since they attack with the last forces, they have a smaller number of these soldiers, but they have more experienced soldiers

Engineer - As with the Germans in Poland, they can remove barricades

Gunner - As with the Germans in Poland, they have more ammunition

Sniper - Thanks to the many tall buildings in Prague, it is possible to use them really well agains Czech and Vlasovci

Mortarman - due to the need to move, there are a small number of them and they are unlocked only in the middle of the campaign

Bomber - From the beginning, they have rocket launchers at their disposal, which will really help in the later part of the game campaign

Radio Operator - the longer the attack takes, the longer it will take to repeat the mortar shots

Flametrooper - They are unlocked only later, a smaller number of effective places

I would also like to add that this is only my opinion and that I am not so good at arms history, so it is possible that I made a lot of mistakes. Rather, it is really an idea to use these uprisings as they are often overlooked, even those nations.

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I think having gameplay of germans crushing revolts would be a massive nono

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So it would compleatly change the concept from Management your weapons and units to just click and play? because if yes then i wont like that…

But they woudnt be winning on 100%, thanks to good made maps and enginers work, rebels would had really good chances to win, and it would make something whitch every campaign is saing - ,different experience"

No, you would had to do these things still, but as rebels you would need to do things around you to win too, and not just go to place 1 so you can capture it.

It would be different experience.

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at the end of the match do you machine gun families?

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I would give sence in Warshaw but I dont thing, it would be accepted by some people, even when it happend in history.

It sounds interesting tho, i would try it. :slight_smile:

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let me rephrase it. I dont think it would be acceptable to have the NAZIS CRUSHING REVOLTS in the game. They already dont have swastikas, so why would they show the actions of the nazis?

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Sorry my friend, but you are comparing symbols and actions (battles).

I understand why you think this, still I think you are wrong, for some reason it would be bad if there would be swastikas and things like this, yes, we know this. But this is still battle, those people wont be murdered for color, sexuality or something else, they would be killed because they are fighting.

By this it makes it like every other battle, one side just have better weapons. Something like Indians and Americans.

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I hope that I understanded you now.

Thank you man, it is nice to hear, that you like my work. :smile:

They are being murdered for rebelling against one of the most evil governments ever known. And also i would like to have historically accurate swastika flags for immersion.

Do you want the engineer to construct Treblinka, too?

Don’t think it’s needed.

First it will be very boring battle, same guns for both sides same looking maps as the city in Moscow and would be even more similar to Stalingrad and Berlin.

Unbalanced, unlike the germans the poles didn’t had many tanks they had two captured panthers and sdkfz 251 and (iirc) Italian M14 tank.

Not to mention when it comes to guns the germans will have everything the poles have but better cus that’s reality, the poles used mostly captured German equipment and left overs…

And lastly it isn’t a main Battle, like it or not most people won’t play it, it isn’t iconic/ big enough to get a lot of attraction yeah, maybe people will play few games but they’ll probably just return to their normal favorite campaign after…
And the most important thing, how the devs are going to profit from making those campaigns, thought about what can be vehicle premium squad? What can be SMG premium squad? And what can be LMG premium squad? How they gonna get paid back for developing this campaign, campaigns take a lot of time to develop.

I think that it’s more important to focus on the big campaigns for now.

Stil they are fighting agains evil, and not by words, but by guns.

It would be different if point of this campaigns was doing protest agains Nazis, and they would start shooting.

But hare they started stooting, so we can call them soldier by this sort of rebeling, so I think it woudn´t be problem.

And with those swastikas, I just dont understand why are they trying to cenzure it, in Germany ok, but why in rest of Word?

There isnt any reason to build this thing

dunno why they are censoring it for everyone. I, as an american who likes history, wanna see the accuracy of flags.

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You have right, Im just saing it could be interesting, some sort of esceping from those same battles, with different weapons and map.

I just don’t find playing in same place for 10th time, in different game, really funny.

And being unbalanced is main point of this, you as some civilian who just picked weapon dont have big chances agains experienced SS soldier.