Tunisia is a failure

How do you find the winrate

120 Battles played with Allies? 84% winrate? Seems about right.

Also interesting, that no one complains about the italian armored cars vs one shot Crusader fights? It´s not like, undefeated tanks on a huge, free area wouldn´t shred all available infantry or something like that…OH and allies have now a full light machine gun squad for free, but with campaign lvl 3 and with my 6 of 9 later avaible german riflemen in one squad, i´m totally capable of fighting those…

Lol, the imbalance must be fixed? Despite the MP40 and the Italian SMG’s being fine (except for the assaulter 2 one) and more of an personal preference thing Germany is hand held in ev ry other campaign Tunisia is the most balanced capgin gear wise and you are literally calling it the worst cause of Thompson, this entire post is a joke

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The Axis players in Tunisia can’t cope with having a fair fight, they are like the US military and fight only when they have a massive advantage.

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It´s not a theory of the US Military. That counts for all military actions. Anything otherwise would be foolish.

But that doesn´t mean, that the dev´s shouldn´t try do something, at least for the mad people, still trying to play this campaign :stuck_out_tongue:

dude what do you mean have you seen the tanks? and why do you always strikeout half your posts

You mean just like many other players in every campaign on both sides of the conflict? It’s not an Axis only phenomenon, it’s a type of player issue. In every campaign if someone feels their “main” army isn’t doing well enough to the point their lack of skill gets compensated by the game so they can get easy wins those people are going to complain. There are issues in every campaign (yes, even in Tunisia), however there is also an issue where people who refuse to learn from their mistakes and adapt to the situation blame the game for their own faults. This is not something exclusive to the Axis in Tunisia, both Allies and Axis have this in all campaigns.

Of course everyone would rather engage with a numerical advantage but the whole engage only in 3-1 numerical superiority is a US thing

Not really, there’s a considerable subgroup of axis mains that constantly bitch and mown about every piece of allied equipment that’s somewhat effective and complain about allied biasdespite having all the advantages due to gear and some times map design I don’t see the forum allied threads being like this in both reasoning and numbers, last time that was the case it was Russian players (actual Russians) on theclosed Alpha testing phase but as soon as the game went open beta the tables were turned due to the influx of the sub group of players I am speaking of which are mostly werhaboos/people who only play Germany

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I never said these groups are equal in size, but they do exist (and can be seen occasionally on the forums). There’s no need to argue about the kind of love german equipment usually gets from a large amount of people (even I do love them a lot, but I like to play both allies and axis so I can (somewhat) see what the real experience is like). However it’s not really fair to say it’s only the Axis. The Jumbo-Panther issues we’ve had this year highlights this pretty well:

While I never really had issues with tanks myself (unless they camp in the gray zone, the only counter to my shiny det packs), many people defended the Jumbo when it was the best tank in Normandy. It might not have had the most powerful AT gun, but as an infantry support vehicle (which I consider to be the main role of every tank in the game) it was excellent. It’s great at killing infantry, it’s frontal armor is very reliable especially if you can hide your weakspot well and it’s just overall great, a good Jumbo player can mostly ignore any Pz IV player at range as long as he keeps his hull in the right angle. Now with the introduction of the Panther, the allied players use the same arguments against the Panther they were defending the Jumbo from.

Both the Jumbo and the Panther were balanced against the wrong vehicles causing this mess we currently have, however since in both cases the 2 sides made the exact same case for/against these tanks they were talking about, I think it would be a logical conclusion to say people were biased in both cases. In the end, many times when the mains of the 2 opposing factions argue about something with their own biases in mind, the truth is somewhere in the middle. I think this is true for many other aspects of Normandy as well, where many of the issues are blown way out of proportion until only 2 extremes are trying to convince the other that their side is in the right.

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Tunisia is a huge struggle for the Axis, both in terms of equipment and because the Axis playerbase is small so matches often start out lopsided to begin with.

Sure, the M1 is good and the MP40 is decent, but to sit there and claim they’re as good as the Lanchester and the Thompson? Allied SMG TTK is practically instant compared to the slower-firing Axis SMGs. Meanwhile the 20 round MP28 isn’t nearly as effective as the Sten. And of course, every single Allied player gets access to a 4 LMG squad thanks to the event, a huge deal considering the majority of players are still at low levels. What did the Axis players get? 1 Assaulter, oh boy praise be.

Meanwhile, sure, the Semovente can take out the Grant, and the Grant can in turn take it out as well. It obviously has an advantage against the lower tier Allied tanks (as it should), but unlike the Grant it doesn’t just invalidate them as soon as it appears on the field. The AB41 and the M14 might as well not even exist as soon as a Grant shows up (especially at long range), whereas the 40mm gun on the tier 1 and 2 Allied tanks can still be effective against the Semovente, and all it takes to disable it is a shot to the tracks or transmission.

Meanwhile people seem to focus solely on the tank-vs-tank aspect of the vehicles, and barely ever mention how awful the Axis tanks are at fighting infantry. They absolutely suck at supporting infantry thanks to their pitiful MGs and slow-reloading main guns. The Semovente can’t do the job at all thanks to the complete lack of ability to defend itself once enemies get…well…within explosive pack throwing distance. It doesn’t help that the M14 and Semovente are both incredibly sluggish as well. A Crusader or Grant can utterly lock down a route towards an objective for advancing infantry while an M14 gets 24 MG rounds and 1 HE shot before it goes silent for like 8 seconds, more than enough time for infantry to sprint to cover or advance to kill it. You can pretty much just run past any of the Axis tanks, I know, because that’s pretty much all I have to do whenever I’m playing as Allies.

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It was accidentaly released to soon withr recen update, so some people checked it when it, but they removed it for now. Propably will be coming soon though. There was some event badges and nametags tabs too, so i guess some big update coming.
Was pretty cool overall stats, and for each campaign, though no specific weapon kills, just rifle/submachinegun etc.

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because the strikeouts aren’t as important as the others also yes i have seen the tanks, at least the first 2 and some grants, with the AB41 being fairly good for AT and the m14 having a good anti personal gun

The 40mm gun has bad post pen dmg
If you already pretend to have knowlegde, at least switch to the other campaign faction and read the goddamn description… let alone playing the other faction.

A13 is not a damn Crusader tank uggh

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I think anyone who has actually played Tunisia would agree that the Axis have it MUCH WORSE.

I have completed the allied campaign, and I can tell you For.Sure that the Axis is much much MUCH more difficult because the gear is just worse.

Allied rifle get 10 rounds, Axis 6
Allied SMGs (Sten/ Lanchester) Faster fire rate

You also clearly HAVE NOT read my post where I say I AM NOT AN AXIS MAIN. but also by this logic, you are saying that every other campaign the axis have better gear? Laughs in Berlin/ Moscow

Go away troll.

Axis in Tunisia isn’t even my main army, but they are definitely the underdogs.

Thank you!

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Thanks for info! Gijin removing it :clown_face:

I wasn’t talking about anyone here, I just tried to make him understand that it’s very unfair to say only the Axis mains blow issues way out of proportion, Allies mains do it too, or downplay issues that benefit them. That is why I tried to explain to him “Axis mains can’t cope with a fair fight” is a severely biased opinion.

im Tunesia Axis main, and my only problem my teammates/bots dont know a bit smarter better. yes some missions are stupid and damage models but i think after what was it in my statcard 3?days i think its balanced

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Fair, I misunderstood.
My apologies

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No need to apologize, it happens to all of us. Plus there was no harm done. :wink:

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