Tunisia a complete mess for axis?

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i’m sorry since i " joined late to the part " and this should have comed much, much earlier.
now, i’m not here to blain anyone ( or maybe i am ) but what were they thinking?.

honestly,
perhaps i have been just out of luck for 20 matches. but how is someone supposed to play tunisia?

in briefly, one of my best mates decided to play tunisia as axis army because we both are italeons ( so, some sort of patriotism or stuff like that i guess ), but holy heck i wasn’t expecting to play hell sandstorm simulator.

outside the fact that i don’t have enough equipment to compete, i still come on the top with just the regular squad of carcanos ( which are good weapons even if not upgraded. feels punchy, different and particular ) but that’s not the point.

love the sniper as well. but when it comes to everything else, i’m highly disappointed. i played each map and tried every gamemode, and i came to a conclusion, this whole campaign is a whole mess ( for axis ).

even much worse than berlin it self ( and that says alot compared to when it was out )

i never thought to come to this conclusion, but for my experience i can’t really see to recommend it towards newer players, nor anyone that is willing to play it ( unless they want to go for the ally, due to the playerbase and already advanced and already equipped players ).

but that it the sad truth, if you want to play it, go for the ally side.
because the the whole techtree is wrong ( for axis ). focking level 9 to get the first engy?
i thought that the mp34 was bad ( then made it somewhat usable compared when normandy was firs t introduced to everyone ) but the m28 it’s just… awefull.
shotguns? why even bother.
huge asymetrical tank balance? ab against A13? i mean, not that the A13 is better, but it is superior to the AB ( outside the fact that the AB can just tank all the shots no matter what. grand compared to a semovente? honestly?
speedy cars against m14s?
let’s not even talk about airplanes.
or reused uniforms for at least half of the units that are german.
i can’t really see anything that really gets me hyped to grind and say " oh shit, i must have this one ".
it’s not like normandy where you have m10s, panthers, kps, thompsons.

you get slapped by outdated equipmen and re used assets left and right.

who even comed up with such idea?

and even maps? for how much gorgeous they are, they are absolute shit in terms of gameplay. you can even camp the enemy team spawn with a tank from far positions ( or get spawnkilled ). you either spawn in the most open of the fields with no cover, or have to reach objectives that impossible to reach with the little cover that is present outside the urban areas.
it’s no fun what so ever. i’m really having an hard time to play it as an axis player. yes, i’m fully aware of questionable teammates, but that’s not the point. i don’t recall other campaigns to be so painfull to play.

destruction?
oh boi. it takes 1/2 full minuts just to place the bomb, and 3 to 4 just to blow up.
which doesn’t make any sense considering that tanks can just shoot it, artillery or even bombs nails it, and you still have to place a bomb ( for technical and realism perspective )

the ab with just 10 rounds?

damage models being even worse?

just… e w.

might not for me, but i find much easier normandy campaign as an ally player with all those panthers and kps.

it reminded me to play war thunder ( AKA suffer simulator ), not enlisted.
which i don’t mind loosing, it’s part of the game. but it’s so uninspiring to play.

is it just me?
i mean, ya can call me a noob all you want, but i couldn’t care less. in my honest opinion, i have never and ever experienced something so bad.

i have no clue tbh.
is it just me? am i missing something?

what about the others axis players. how do they feel?.

the only fun experience i can have, is playing the ally since they have quite the good looking uniforms ( outside few ), weapons that make sense in that campaign, and generally, the rest.
but it feels like to play against bots.

worst part is, i can’t even come up with a suggestion my self to “”"“repair”"""" this campaign for the axis side it’s not like adding good stuff ( if it’s even possible ) at the end people will be able to enjoy the campaign when having bad stuff to play with for majority of the campaign it self

again, i don’t mind having skilled enemies to face and pull up a fight on my own, but honestly, why bother?
the axis player base it is what it is. but i can’t really see why german players should play this campaign in the first place when there is barely interestring stuff. ( again, might just be me ) but in my matches, i don’t find people that makes alot of kills or even play objectives outside stuka players, and few miracoulous individuals that can pull up a fight to my side. ( and no, i mean no flex. i hate to flex unless for jokes )

P.S.
no, i do not disrespect the work behind for italian weapons, nor the campaign it self, because again, it’s somewhat nice, but bitterly unpleyable for the axis, and unless devs wanted to design this campaign to be a pve thing for the ally, something should be made about it.
( and no, reduction times of spawn or capture point ain’t gonna solve the issue )

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I can answer only one question, regarding the engineers at lv9 in the sick head of the developers the weapons for the infantry are unlocked either by the engineers or the radio team and having used the radio team at lv4 for the first bolt-action they used the engineers at the lv9 for the second bolt-action :upside_down_face:

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which, you get like, 4 types of bolt actions, some of them are ok, and others, not so much.

but the worst part is, this whole campaign has more cons than pros.

how can you have fun playing as carne da macello for majority of the time?

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you know the most disgusting thing, the tier 2 or 3 squad will be mostly american and german transforming tunisia into normandy 2.0, how nice reuse assets

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yep… and i’ll already expect type IIII soldiers over normandy that are british and italians…

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I feel like alot of the Tunisia mess has to do with poor timing by the developers. They dropped the patch that added the Panther and MP43 for Normandy which drew all the Axis mains back to Normandy and sent all the Allies who didnt get many cool toys in Normandy to Tunisia resulting in this massive imbalance

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there are the same weapons used in normandy by the allies the only different thing are the brithis commowealth squads and this is what attracts players

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yeah, i’m aware that the new levels plays a several role in this whole bad situation, but even with players that plays tunisia as axis it gets worse.

sure, you might love the maps, but you don’t have many " reasons " to play it. so uninspiring. might as well farm some other techtree and wait for custom matches to tweaks them and play them on other maps…

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What allied main wants to grind out Normandy? For an M10 and another Thompson? Hard pass until there is something else high level worth while

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So is the Sten.

The Grant is better against infantry, but the Semovente will almost always beat the Grant in a fight.

The Dalmier is trash and even AT rifles kick its shit in with 0 effort. No competition for the M14.

because the Axis gets better planes

I should reiterate I’m an Italian main.

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So you grind for a grant and another thompson? long live the difference

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No you are missing the point. Axis top out with more gear in Normandy. Allies end stronger in Tunisia. Hence all good axis went to Normandy and all good Allies went to Tunisia. If they add a Tiger to Tunisia guess who is on top? Axis and the player base will reflect it

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the reason that allies are stronger in tunisia is because the english squads can be used in africa, the reason that axis is weaker in tunisia is because no one wants to reuse the germans again for the fourth time (the italians are present as a secondary faction let’s face it) and in normandy there is the stg44 and panther

sure that if they add the tiger things change in tunisia, you’ve seen normandy now

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Yes people will follow the top level stuff. The Axis getting MP43 and panther drew the Axis mains there. The allies getting an M1 Thompson and an M10 did not

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but if they had not entered the British it would have been the same in Tunisia, the allies were saved only for this

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Like if they made it all US? That would of been horrible lol this game has alot issues representing other factions like commonwealth being completely left out of Normandy minus their weapons for some reason

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but for normandy there are other 3 unrepresented beaches, where british and canadian landed so they should add them maybe

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They should also add in the other Axis units who were present

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Agreed, I love the maps, really love them. But when I look at the levels, I just don’t want to grind useless things… because even late levels are boring, why grind a whole boring campaign… I agree that allied get better and less boring levels too, but even there, it doesn’t feel right

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Can you really compare Sten to Mp28? Sten will win in most of situations especially in CC because of higher rate of fire and clear ability to kill more enemies fast.

Why not Mp38? Oh its too good, we fucked ourselves in Moscow as no one will spend 2 silver orders for MP40 then (DF point of view)

Can you compare A13 ability to kill infantry with whatever Axis have? Vickets can shoot for ages and not overheat. Tank Breda can’t overheat at all because most of the time it’s reloading. Invalid with only one leg would reload the mag faster then what we have in game now.

And maps… most of the time its just chasing campers in the houses.

Funny thing is there are uniforms for DAK, I think Motorcycle squad has them. Why they chose to put Normandy ones for Assaulter squad instead of these, at least for placeholders, is beyond me.

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