This is called “Collective punishment”, which is a punishment imposed on the whole community for acts perpetrated by some members of the community. In other words, when a couple people desert, we all get punished for it. Well, of course, unless you live in a place that has perfect power grids, perfect internet and have perfect Gaijin servers.
I have NONE!
Hear! Hear! All true, I dont understand why the devs and haters wont listen.
No, that would be even worse literally stopping people from playing all together.
If that was happening my squadmate would probably uninstall the game and I wouldnt blame him.
Plus if the ‘problem’ is not enough people in matches, locking out half the playerbase doesnt seem much like a solution does it?
I strongly disagree with this BS argument that oh people leaving automatically makes our team lose.
If one or two people leaving your team ‘automatically makes you lose’, thats YOUR problem. Your team was very likely losing already anyway.
Ive played this game for over 5 years now and I have NEVER found desertions to be an issue. The only times when multiple people left was because it was a stupid gamemode like Confrontation and the battle had dragged on and on for literally 50 minutes so yeah some people had stuff to do and were tired bored and frustrated.
As everyone else here is saying people play Enlisted for ENJOYMENT. I am so tired of having to yell at people like you that THIS IS NOT A REAL WAR. It is a GAME. You play for ENJOYMENT. When you are not enjoying it you LEAVE and that is your perogative and you shouldnt be punished for it.
You are not ‘betraying the team’ cause you left a computer game because you had stuff to do. You certainly arent determining the outcome of a battle based on leaving once due to poor internet or need to do chores or something.
Personally I have never left a battle cause I was losing, I left because as Ive said the game was going on for far too long and I had things to do and wasnt even enjoying it.
Myself and many many others on this forum have also actually intended on staying in a game but poor internet meant we were kicked out. THAT IS NOT OUR FAULT. SO DONT PUNISH US FOR IT.
Furthermore, as the OP and others have stated, right at the start of the game some of us leave because we know we wont enjoy it and probably wont stay anyway. We can see that it is Confrontation on Tractor Plant or some crap and we know thats no good.
Now people like you claim that that ‘ruins the battle’… except how can we ruin a battle we havent even joined yet???
Why would you want a bunch of players who dont even want to be there, or know that theyve only got 15 minutes to play Enlisted?
Tell us at the start of a battle what the gamemode and map is BEFORE committing. That way those of us who dont want XYZ map or gamemode can just not play and the server can be filled by those that do.
I dont understand why that is such a problem for you and the devs.
This forum and others keep saying it, I dont know how else to communicate that like Number 1 reason for ‘desertion’ is cause we cant control which maps/gamemodes we want to play and Number 2 because we got kicked due to reasons out of our control like connection issues.
Neither of those deserve punishment. It is true that Issue 2 cannot be resolved easily but Issue 1 certainly can if they implemented what I wrote before, in addition to making the map vote system actually work and let us vote against gamemodes as well.
Id also argue we should be able to vote against as many maps as desired. If you downvote a whole bunch of maps then yeah obviously ones you dont like are still going to appear from time to time, in which case we should be made aware before joining and committing to a battle we dont want!
Final point you say that we cant tell the difference between someone just rage quitting and someone who has an power outage. Well, all the more reason NOT to punish everyone over it.
Youd make a great police officer with that attitude… “oh we cant tell who did the crime so we’ll just arrest everyone”
As I have said before I just cant comprehend this hatred of people like you towards these supposed people who quit mid game cause they got shot once and that somehow ruins your whole game. I have argued that it just doesnt even work like that and also like how common are these people??? In my experience not at all.
Why are you so concerned about some other guy leaving, if some noob wants to be a crybaby and ragequit that’s his business. It doesnt stop you enjoying FPS.
This self righteous crusade against what appears to me to be an entirely imaginary problem is ruining Enlisted and turning what few players we do still have away.
yes I know thats worst than what we currently have it was a example lol
It actually does ruin matches where theres 10 real players vs 10 real players. if you and 3 other people leave theres now 6 vs 10 how is that fair? should everyone just leave the match at that point lol and wouldnt the enemy team now will be fighting a bot team which sounds boring so they should leave as well no?
I really donate care about people leaving their matches for what ever reason. I just find it funny that people complain about a -20% when it could be way worse. the police thing is a dumb comparison because it would depend on the crime being committed.
you can list 1000 reason why someone should leave a GAME but it still doesn’t solve the issue for other players that stay in the game when the match could have been won and leaving at that start doesn’t really matter because they get replaced by other players most of the time.
yes I do agree with you on improving the game but devs are slow at everything and wont care to see this suggestion because its mostly complaining instead of ways to improve it maybe you can make a separate post with ways on changing it instead of just saying remove it because its pointless.
Replace the -20% with no rewards for the deserted battle i.e. no silver, no exp, no victory.
TY for your attn to this matter.
lol could be possible or even better give the exp to the people that stay by spreading it out to each player
With how things are as they are that’s currently impossible since some of the community and the developers like this mindset and they do not want to ever question the master.
Never mind while some custom games already solve some of the problems and some mods have almost fixed everything but the developers just refused to add them.