The Vickers Mark E - An early Finnish light tank for BR1

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The Vickers Mark E light tank was developed in 1928 in Britain designed to be used for them, it wasn’t really adopted besides as an artillery tractor. It did however, see massive exports to countries all over the world, and some of these countries include Russia (became the T26), Poland (became the 7TP), Bulgaria, the ROC, and the subject of this post, Finland.

The Finns at the start of the 1930s had only 35 tanks in total, with those being 34 aging Renault FTs and 1 Saint-Chamond M1921, which would be insufficient for any conflics in the future. As a result, Finland decided to outsource their tanks and turn to the UK, which after trials with 3 models of light tank, the Vickers Mark E was decided to be purchased. 32 were ordered in total, but interestingly, without any armament, optics, or radios. This was done to save money on the tanks, and more local equipment was used once the tanks arrived. The main gun was the 37mm Bofors Psv.K/36 cannon (see anti-tank shell stats in the spoiler below), an 8mm Ksp m/36 machine gun, which was a liscenced Swedish copy of the Vickers machine gun, an most interestingly, instead of a hull machine gun like other tanks, it was decided to use a modified Suomi KP/31 sub-machine gun as a mounted weapon in the hull, with the stock cut off and an optial sight used. The armor was similarly as thin as T26s at 17/10/17 and 10/13/10 millimeters thick armor on the turret and hull.

Stats for the AP and APHE

10 m 100 m 500 m 1000 m 1500 m 2000 m

psav Vj4
AP 62 58 42 29 20 14

pstkr 27-34 (15g explosive filler)
APHE 55 51 37 26 17 12

These tanks would continue to see use up until the 1950s, and saw action in both the Winter and Continuation Wars, although with modifications made after the Winter War had finished.

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In my opinion there are enough BR1 tanks in the game and adding this vehicle really only makes sense if Finland is added as well, until then, its no from me since it wont add anything note worthy.

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But that is obviously never going to happen …

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Devs seem to have picked up interest in subfactions since we have seen an increase in new Italian and British equipment added to the game.
Italy vs Britain only event
New Chinese squad
French Normandy-Niemen squadron, flying with the red army.
British and Italian customization finally.

So I think that we could see more subfactions in the future, even Finland.

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Maybe they could transfer all of the subfaction content to their own factions once they have enough?

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What do you mean exactly?
Make French weapons like Mas-36 legacy and add them to France/Allied faction.
Or just add the French weapons to the faction but change nothing else.

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Honestly I was just thinking of factions that already have all of their stuff on in the TTs of their allies, like UK and USA.

Didn’t think of france, but that’d be a conundrum:
ermany really did use french weapons, but that was way after their defeat, so logically they shouldn’t be seeing each other on opposite sides?
But then again making them diffrent BRs also doesn’t make much sense…

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Funny enough, this was one tank that was used by the Thai army, before aligning with the Empire of Japan. I believe it SHOULD be added to the TT, but as a Thai squad on the Japanese TT to give them a better option at BR1.

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I understand what your saying, but they would first have to add so many other factions that waiting for the Fins is way to optimistic, especially since your argument is as if now, stil speculation, they have mot actually added Italy and Brittain.

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last time devs made a statement on the matter, they said they have no plans on seperating British Empire and US or Germany and Italy.
In fact we are heading in the opposite direction, Soviets got their very own subfaction too in the last major update.

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I agree with this.

Japanese low rank tanks suck, it would be great to have the Vickers in game.

If this were added for a Finnish squad Id support it but I want national squads in tech trees.

Unfortunately for @GasMasters-live others are correct that we dont have Finnish maps so until we do this wouldnt really make that much sense.

It would be good if the Winter War/Continuation War were added in future. Perhaps @GasMasters-live make another suggestion for the Vickers Mk E as a tech tree Thai tank in the Japanese tree so its in the game and then one day when we get Winter War it can be copy pasted to the Axis tree as the Finnish version?

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We could get siege of leningrad map. That way it would make sense seeing Finnish fighting with germans kinda like chinese fight with allies in burma

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Good idea.

My only concern there would be whether Leningrad would be too similar to Stalingrad/Berlin maps. (in terms of overall environment)

Admittedly I have previously suggested the Battle for Vienna or Budapest. I believe either of those are unique given various landmarks and if expanded to other maps like Austria would be good because certain rural or village maps would work for Western Allies and USSR.

Hungary would be great if we got tech tree Hungarian squads.

Id also prefer multiple maps rather than just one where certain nations make sense (off topic but ideally we wouldve seen Sino-Japanese War battles where Chinese squads wouldve made more sense. I dont see why we couldnt have Soviet or American squads auto swap to Chinese like Italians currently do with Germans. )

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skis increase movement speed? Skiing leaked in enlisted?? Leak confirmed?