So you arw saying that if someone says that ussrs weapon is weak that means that it should be buffed which means that something germans will also need buff and since us is somewhat forgoten, it might not get a buff against german weaponry, and after that we get to the japan that is non-existent to devs so they will surely get nothing?
(I might have broken english at this point of time)
Tl:dr- ussr weak->buff ussr->buff germany->almost forget to buff us->forgot to buff japan (i guess thats how it works?)
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FG42 doesn’t “fight against” AVT - players fight each other and these are 2 of the tools they use.
Soviets have other “best” weapons you can use if you’re too sad to use the AVT.
There is absolutely no need for 2 specific weapons to be mirror image/perfectly matched against each other.
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Exactly. Allies are victims of the German-Soviet arms race. You try fighting a Panther or an IS with a Sherman once in a while. It gets real old lemme tell you! Lol
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Not like this lets put an example
AVT and fg 42 both very good weapons but the fg42 is a little bit superior and thats what sovs not like and they ask for powerfull buff thats the why i call bias, then atv is buffed wherebaoos come here to change the bias and then they buff the fg but oh wow t20 now is useless but if us buff it japan will die
Is basically a butterfly effect
Ask for biased> biased things> ask for a balance> balance finally> but the rest of factions are afected
And this can end in a Lot of problems
If there we’re no more posts asking for Bias the timeline Will be completly different
Lee Enfield<Mosin<Kar98<M1Garand
At least talking about power.
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Misleading? We are talking about Meta here, and in BR5 people know what vitality is.
Yes, it’s misleading.
I bet more people on BR5 doesn’t even have fully upgraded weapons. Rather than have combination of body armor/vitality perk.
I find it absolutely ridiculous how someone keeps trying to create drama out of this.
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seriously…Both these guns are suuuuuper effective as they are.
sure, BUT it is part of the game though. When you are comparing balances you gotta do it at the ceiling potential level (final product) on both sides.
Most of the time points given are only the ones that support the point of view, makes it easy for anyone to jump straight to calling “bias”, even if its probably just ignorance. after you see it alot you really dont care which it is.
So if you are really looking at balancing, what do the extra 5 bullets to the AVT mag do?
- Makes it equal to the FG 42 in capacity? Sure Not a problem…seems balanced
but lets look at a bigger picture
Without them being a clone of each other, thats a pretty healthy give and take distribution…
“BUT Mag capacity are more important stats for an effective gun!!!” as stated in OP, if having 20 rounds would make them more fair in his eyes.
Now how does that translate into how effective they are. as @robihr said
So… because Body armor plus Vitality exists (for just USSR) and the FG42 does less damage, the benefits the FG 42 has over the AVT-40 dont translate into effectiveness as well
Giving the AVT more bullets has the implication of creating an even bigger bigger maximum Kill per mag deficit. (which is already in the favour of AVT in optimum conditions).
Something has to give and take.
So sure, give the AVT 20 rounds, But to do so you would have trade 5 more rounds for the removal of body armor. OR, increase FG 42 Damage so that body armor does nothing to its 1 hit kill range. (body armor should only be effctective against small calibre anyway, not higher powered roundsm especially at point blank)
All of a sudden we are making the weapons closer and closer to clones of each other…how fucking boring. looking at you AS-44 and STG 44
Cant we just appreciate that they are two great weapons with different applications. If you like The FG-42 better, Go play it.
about as ridiculous as a 5 bullet diference.
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well as long as body armor exists there will always be drama about it. it doesnt matter if 1 out 100 people have body armor or 99 people out of 100 have body armor. it directly affects balance just by existing.
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Which team German? Man I play last night and we roll
US and Soviet did put up a good fight tho
well you and most of the players know what i meant…
it really doesnt matter when majority of people take vitality as perk.
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Well, 50% less time to kill just because of body armor is more than drama worthy.
AS-44 has 0.39 dispersion whily STG-44 has 0.46. As you can see, even on that the AS-44 is better 
Nevertheless the russians have to many weapons which are stronger weapons then the german but I don’t cry about it. In most cases it’s up to the player using that one. However I don’t see any sense to buff the russian AVT because the FG is better.
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Learn to pop headshots, filthy casual. :Pp jk obv
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Dont trigger me, this isnt counterstrike, headshot heavy gunplay is unrealistic and stupid.
In reality one bullet to the upper leg will kill a man, not just headshots - I have no respect for arcade damage models in shooter games.
Hehe :PP
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Also on a serious note, FG42 ONLY kills in two shots against body armor because FG42 deals less damage than Soviet select fire guns - if FG42 would get its damage increased to match Soviets, this entire issue would cease to exist.
I ran BR III Sovies 2 days in a row and I don’t know if I got a single win
Soviet faction always had the least skilled core playerbase for whatever reason.