The German fighters need a boost for the damage output of their guns - they’re literally not doing any damage even with 60-70% shot accuracy, while on the contrary the US M2 browning machine guns just shred German planes to pieces. Germany has no real option to counter the Thunderbolt, cause even if someone takes a fighter into the game, its useless with its damage output. This definitely needs a rework, make German planes useful again!
maybe target core components?
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I’ve got wingless 38s, tailless thunderbolts and burnt down a-20s that would 100% disagree with you. Oh all of those were shot down by my bf110
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No, they really don’t.
Firstly, Germans have way better small arms and Panther could shit on every US armored unit.
Secondly, US aircraft is only effective against ground units, they usually lose in the air.
Idk what else you want in Normandy, maybe a jet or what?
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He’s right on this one though.
German 20mm and 30mm cannons are pathetic.
I pumped a couple hundred 20mm rounds from the 190 A-8 into a P-47s wings and fuselage, and the argument of “the fuselage is just empty” doesn’t work, having hundreds of rounds hit a plane that small will chew through it and violate the pilot.
Same for an A-20, had to pump most of my ammo into his wings and engines for him to go down.
Or with the 110 going head to head with P-47s, they take no damage, direct 37mm hits in the engine and cockpit, the plane remains in the air for another 20 minutes easily. Meanwhile with US planes I can drop any german plane in seconds.
The cannon damage is really fucked, 50 cals work significantly better to a point if you’re german it’s not worth going after enemy planes, you’re just wasting your time, ground pound instead.
The only plane that’s somewhat worth using in air to air combat is the Bf 110, it ranges from being useless to cutting tails off, however it’s unreliable as hell. Sometimes it’ll do it in one shot, sometimes in 10, sometimes even more.
The only reason US pilots lose while in the air at this point is just because they’re bad. Their weapons work much better at taking out enemy planes than german ones, I have less issues dropping planes with the P-51 and P-38 than I do with the 190 A-8, yet my accuracy is largely the same.
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I disagree. German fighters are pretty good actually. Try to aim for the engine or wings.
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I disagree on .50 cals just shredding through enemy planes. I had countless times that I landed around 80% of hits on a Bf110 or larger and they just shook it off like Taylor Swift forcing me to abandon the chase because I was out of ammo.
On the other hand I agree with the pathetic performance of 20 and 30mm guns. Considering that hitting with german planes takes much more trigger discipline I don’t really find it balanced as well. You could easily give the Minengeschoss rounds the wrecking performance they had actually in RL - same as for the 50 cals I might add.
But then again the hit registration and damage to components is in general rather weird in this game. Only thinking about the shell performance of tanks here gives me the shivers.
I find fighter not really rewarding. It is better to take tank or attacker/bomber because of very limited slots.
German tanks are shite, equipment is shite, planes are shite, bombs are shite… the whole faction is a joke.
Messerschmitt Me 262 with four Mk 108A 30mm will solve the problem. Plus 2x 500kg on it I mean why not. Maybe some 24 R4M 55mm too just for the overkill.
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I also disagree, I think it comes down to pilot experience/skill more than the Allied planes being bullet sponges.
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Just out of curiosity, is the FW190 fixed yet on Normandy?
Last time I took it out it was like my Pilot was drunk, and the guns were on Auto-Fire.
Nope.
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Thanks, I have been afraid to try taking it out again.
I guess I’ll keep my Ju188 on standby. Not that I play planes much. I only use them to Dig out Grey Zone Campers.
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fg42 disagrees with you
Sarcasm is strong with this one.
I love Ju 188. Best carpet bomber imo, for now.
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I’ve just recently started playing axis in normandy, and my only complaint with the 110 is that the guns don’t seem to actually hit planes if you aim at the lead indicator. Easy to compensate for, but frustrating to learn how to lead with that limited ammo.
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Oh yeah the ammo is limited and the velocity is awful but it does hit hard against aircraft and infantry alike
Oh for sure, just a bit of a learning curve hitting planes. Those cannons delete infantry. Before I started Axis, I maxed Allies, and was always real confused why the p38 gets six rockets but the 110 only gets four, and then I started doing 110 strafing runs. It doesn’t need more rockets XD
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Which is why I compare the bf110 to the Thunderbolt
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That’s probably a fair comparison, or the fairest you’re going to find. 110 is more effective at CAS than P38, better at killing troops than the A20, maybe not as good at killing tanks as the P47. It’s the closest thing the axis gets to an all-purpose aircraft, but it’s a master of none.
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