The source of Japan's weapons: Italy

The source of Japan’s weapons: Italy

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On September 3, 1943, the Kingdom of Italy signed the “Casibelli Armistice Agreement” (conditional surrender) with the Allied forces.
After the agreement was signed, Japan immediately occupied the “Tianjin Italian Concession” and the “Shanghai Public Concession” (Italian area), and took the Italian defenders within the concessions into custody. Japan offered the Chinese Italian troops two options: to join the German puppet regime “Saro Republic” or to be imprisoned in a prisoner-of-war camp. Most of the Italian troops chose to join the Saro Republic, while a few were imprisoned in the prisoner-of-war camp. Japan referred to this event as the “September Italian Surrender Incident”.
Subsequently, Japan handed over the Italian concessions to the “National Government (Wang Jingwei)” for management.
Apart from the Italian Army and Navy infantry stationed in Tianjin/Beijing/Shanghai and a few warships stationed in China, one auxiliary cruiser “Raba II” and one colonial patrol ship “Eritrea” of the original Italian Red Sea Fleet were also taken into custody by the Japanese. However, several Italian oceanic submarines on the mission of the Far East underwater transportation line were taken into custody by the Japanese and then handed over to the German Navy, who used them as transport submarines. Among them, the “Marconi” class “Luigi Tonelli” and the “Marcello” class “Caprini” were taken into custody again after Germany surrendered and were directly incorporated into the Japanese Navy, and eventually survived until August 1945 when Japan surrendered.




Italy once had colonies in China.
After Italy surrendered and joined the Allies, it was disarmed by the enraged Germans. And in China, the Italian troops were also disarmed by the Japanese.

This incident occurred in September 1943. The Japanese disarmed the Italian soldiers and obtained these Italian weapons.

I guess these weapons should be distributed to some of Japan’s second-tier teams to enhance their firepower. These weapons might be taken by the Japanese to the Pacific to be used against the Americans; or they might be taken to the north to be used against the Soviets.

Do you think we should consider Italy as a new source of weapons for the Japanese?
Using some Italian weapons as part of an event to enrich the Japanese arsenal?

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Too vague it be like including all German weapons
All us weapons for ussr

True in the way that it would be nice to know what weapons were the sailors and colonial troops stationed in Italian Far East armed with.
The answer might be a little disappointing (if they were armed the same way as colonial troops in Africa).

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Another info, The Dutch East Indies KNIL purchase various Italian firearms captured by the British due to lack of firearms to equip KNIL force, this included the Carcanos, Breda 30, Beretta pistol etc (i can’t find info about MAB 38 among of weapons sent to the Dutch East Indies) and after the Fall of Dutch East Indies, these Italian firearms is captured and put in use by the Japanese

NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

ITALIAN WEAPONS. FOR ITALY!

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Most of those weapons came from colonial troops from Italian East Africa.
In 1941 the main Italian force had surrendered in and the British supplied their arms to the Dutch East Indies.
However, as far as I know, those weapons the Italians had were fairly uninteresting: old Carcano rifles (Japan already has the Type I), Breda 30 machine guns, some SIG KE7 machine guns (already in Japanese TT).
“The best thing” they had were Austro-Hungarian Mannlicher rifles, Japan is missing a rifle that can cycled while aiming, so its something that could be considered.