The new ranking system breaks a taboo (and sets a potentially dangerous precedent)

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Although ranks currently mean absolutely nothing, still ranking points are the first instance of a game mechanic that PUNISHES the player for playing and losing.

They’re the first iteration of something that you can LOSE from your account just for stepping into an ill-fated match, where you possibly couldn’t turn the tides despite your best efforts.

I really hope ranks will be used EXCLUSIVELY for matchmaking purposes, because otherwise, should they end up being related to some kind of reward, they will turn the game into permanent leaderboard event mode, where it’s tryharding or bust, winning becomes the only goal, fun goes out of the window and balance immediately follows.

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Why you all are scared of ranking?

You’re saying to use the rank for only matchmaking purposes and why do you think without any reward for having a high rank would anyone even try to rankup?
If you’re only going to punish me for being marshal (because if youre marshal then you have to play vs better players ) and reward people for leaving or trolling by letting them play vs low level players then why on earth should I rankup?

I think by having fun you only mean leave whenever you want or just camp in your spawn point watch your teammates fighting and if that’s true then You should get punish for that like any other games, because that’s simply selfish. Even if that’s fun for you I’m not sure your teammates having fun as well.

As long as rank system make this people to build rally point and play better than bots, I’m ok with it.

And last thing, as much as I see the developers only trying to reward those who stay and fight every game. Btw they still don’t even punish you for leaving/trolling.

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its already happening rn, full stacks of skilled players are much much more common than before

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I’m sure it’s easier to just spot those guys rn, and even if that’s the problem. Removing it won’t fix anything.

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i m sure its just easier to spot because of similar ranks.
squads or stacks exist since they introduced the option to play with friends.

^ totally on point imo. well done

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I’m not even concerned about leaving or trolling. Those are separate matters and are being discussed since day one.

The point here is that, like in events’ tasks, the player is required to win, while facts prove that victory is obviously outside of singles’ control.

And in every single match, for a winning team, there will be a losing team being punished.

This is a friggin’ game. Games are supposed to entertain, not to punish.

I quit War Thunder after a 8 years addiction because of that sh(ee)t. Fed up of bullcrap economy sending players broke DESPITE premium.

That’s why I want to keep this game within the boundaries of “defeat = missed opportunity, but nothing is lost”.

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I am an average Player with about 54% winrate and i am allready at colonel by just playing, its really not a big deal.
And who cares if they put in a bonus for high rank players, noone forces you to go for it.

Just chill optional rewards are optional and just because a few people cant help but feel compelled by something noone forces them to do that doesnt justify not giving this optional option that then is btw optional to those players who care for it.

I will just ignore it if it come becuse i dislike sweaty achievements, but i will be happy for those that have fun going for them.

As long as it is optional.

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For the sake of honesty, I should also add that I’m writing this after a several days long streak of mostly defeats in Tunisia Allies.

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I want to remain able to play the faction I want when I feel like doing it, even underdogs, and not be pressed to play faction X for wins. I want to remain able to play without being afraid of losing progress if I don’t win a match.

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I’m sorry to hear that,
But please read this one again

And this guy is right, I don’t want to make this game unfun for you, I think it’s a good idea to reward people for playing better and not leaving. with all of that you still don’t have to try to get that reward. You can simply ignore this and enjou your game :stuck_out_tongue:

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to me it seems you keep your rank you just lose the progress to the next rank upgrade, but i wouldnt bet my life on it.

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I’m playing the same faction, tbh it’s fine for me. I’m not saying I didn’t lose any game but nothing unusual.

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yet.

we don’t have a reward, and yet people tries to rank up and even team up just for that.

zee irony.

that’s the main point.

there is no point about this rank at all.

did we truly need a mobile rank ( to a point which even appears in the kill feed ) on this game?

someone thought that it wasn’t arcade enough.

which, speaking of, enlisted is a casual game.
what the heck do we need rank for.

you see, not everyone has their idea of fun by having to push your self harder than the enemy just to win.

and i don’t see why we should be forced to play like that.

so… are you sure that " we " are the selfish here?

as someone says, we play for fun.
and that is what i don’t call fun.

well, just like this whole system was designed for the quitters,

it makes no difference.
if people never wanted to play with the team. a png surely isn’t gonna help.
even if you put 30 gold cards behind it.

if people wanted to quit, they will still quit no matter what.

so for who is this rank designed?

i failed to get the event competitive. and i still fail to see a point to this as well.

i guess that’s one way to put it.

let’s see how it will get improve then. but i have my doubts…

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And one last thing, I used to play only axis berlin because I like those hard game and I just started tunisia when I had my marshal in Berlin, only had 7 level as allies in tunisia and I knew it’s more safe to play berlin to keep my rank but I just left berlin to try new guns and map.
I promise you I didn’t play only for rank I just tried to win and right now I have 300 rating point. Just try to relax and enjoy it, lose or win you will rankup after a while and even if you couldn’t then ignore it.

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I don’t see what the fuss is about the ranking system because it will eventually be nothing more than just flare, if it hasn’t already.

Sure you see “top players” being Goldies right now, but points will roll over and all those players will just be Goldies again, even faster. But the next season will obviously be longer, so inevitably everyone that plays all season casually could also be a Goldie.

And I only say “top players” but really it’s just people who are competent to at least get a Battle Hero every match and played 70 matches.

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People actually think there will be a reward and that’s why we’re here. If there’s no reward for rank then we don’t even need to discuss it xD

The thing is you can’t make a game competitive by just adding a rank system, enlisted is a casual game and it always will be.

I’m not saying dev should force you to play a ranked match but there’s no harm in a reward for just trying more. The real rank system won’t ever work like this. They just added something to appreciate those people that trying more and that’s all.

If you have problem with 4 man squad then I have too, but removing rank won’t fix it. Actually it won’t fix anything

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you could easly pass as my alt just by the way you talk.

there will be a reward only on the next BP season

exacly.

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Welcome to gaijin games.

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I don’t see the problem here I look at a marshal and just point and laugh. It’s like colonel rank in battlefield it doesn’t make a good player.

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Well, that’s the thing that makes people play in the most cancerous way possible and break the balance even more.

Before adding ranks you should fix at least the most obvious ways of abusing. Even if rank means nothing but 1 day of playing.

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