The new cromwell tank has me excited

cant wait for the update coming with the cromwell, not sure how its going to get on at BR III, im just happy their adding some more british armour, will go well with my churchill III, i know people moan about the 6 pndr which are all completely valid its not the best due to its lack of explosive, i am honestly suprised they didnt add the 75mm version truth be told, but then i guess it might compete with the sherman too much then, either way im pretty sure its pen is actually better than shermans M3 gun but im not so sure might have to double check that XD what do you all think of the stuff theyve announced so far?

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yup, cool but put it at br2 ffs

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Yeah i know bit confused why its at BR III, that 57mm wont perform too good at BRIII hopefully its mobility is just that good itll be worth it, they should of made it the 75mm varient imo still cool theyve added it! Cant wait now

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Do you think theyll add some new premium vehicle squads in the new update as well?

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The british 57mm guns are rather good with HE and if you use AP only the caliber doesnt really matter exept for firerate beeing faster so the gun is good.

As for the armor it is harder to say. Since the sidesare also pretty thick as far as I know you will be able to angle your hull very nicely which would make rather good for BR 2.

So I would rather wait and see how well it actually performes as it might just be just fine in BR 3.

But well judging by the fact that 80% of the allied playerbase is unable to aim with AP people will still complain regardless of how good it actually might be at BR 3.

The HE gets away with being weak because of the fire rate, but ive used the Churchill III and crusader in game extensively, and at BR II their great, but at BR III the churchill suffers big time, its the same gun, its post pen Damage is very inconsistent, the amount of times ive hit Ammo directly and its done nothing is infuriating, especially side hits toward the mid section of Panzer IVs/IIIs - this tank will struggle in a lot of situations, the churchill could at least tank some hits, this wont, this is a quick tank yes but so that doesnt mean a lot when you can get one tapped by basically any german APBC. By the time youve fired 3 to 5 shots if not more in some cases, to take each crew memeber out they only need one round from their Panzers to kill you. I still think they should of added the 75mm varient. The Long 75mm the germans get at this BR will kill the heaviest armoured tanks the Allies have at this BR allready, Ironically the Allies upgraded these tanks basically instantly as they realized the 57mm wasnt cutting it at that stage in the war.

The only thing i will say is maybe their completely overhaulling the BR system in the next update to allow it thrive more at This BR perhaps so maybe their is hope for it…

oh of course, otherwise how would they make money?

im thinking they’ll give out the tech tree german plane and then release a premium german plane

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Putting the Cromwell Mk.1 at BR.3 is really pointless.
The Churchill at least has hull armor at BR.3, and its Mk.V with the 6-pounder gun can penetrate the front of a Panther.

The Cromwell Mk.1 has neither. Its 6-pounder gun on the Mk.II just falls a little short of penetrating the Panther’s front. It’s basically a larger Crusader. Even fighting Panzer IVs in tier 3 is a struggle. It has terrible post-pen damage, slow reverse speed, and a boxy shape with poor armor effectiveness. I can’t believe how brave the crews were to drive this thing back then.

Anyone who plays the British tank tech tree in War Thunder deserves real respect, because most British WWII vehicles are just terrible. When you shoot a shell in, the crew inside just turns into QQ gummy bears. It’s really frustrating.

Besides, BR.3 already has the Sherman trio. I really don’t understand why they put the Cromwell Mk.1 here as well. Even with high penetration, having no useful explosive-filled rounds is a critical weakness.

From many videos complaining about British WWII tanks, I’ve summed up several common flaws of British vehicles in WWII battles:

  1. Poor gun depression
  2. Extremely bad post-penetration damage
  3. No useful explosive-filled rounds
  4. Slow reload speed
  5. Slow turret traverse speed
  6. Slow reverse speed
  7. Very fragile armor

Let’s keep pointing out how weak it is, so DF can finally come to their senses and move this tank back to BR.2 where it belongs.

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Ironically the one up for the 57mm is its reloads speed, but yeah i fully agree, until the comet came around, and the later churchil models they struggled. I wouldnt say they were as bad in real life as they are in game, because games really struggle to emulate the human element or even some real life effects that real life offers, often as soon as a tank is hit or has a system disabled theyll just bail. Either way i will see how it plays on release, i dont have high hopes, but they may also be changing the br of some tanks and maybe even expanding it, which would be nice, the fact germany gets the Panzer IV J/G at br III but we cant get a firefly or even the Achilles is infuriating.

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and its got the crappy gun. not the 75MM. :frowning:

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