The design philosophy for jeep squads needs a rework

What players truly need are high-skill-ceiling squads that can make clutch plays and turn the tide in evenly matched or slightly disadvantaged games. Yes, logically, if a squad can carry a disadvantaged match, it will also dominate when you’re already winning. But that is not the issue. The real problem is “win-more” toys that only feel strong when you’re already snowballing, yet offer zero counterplay when your team is struggling.

The current state of the jeep squads is a textbook example of this design failure. It feels like the devs were terrified of jeeps becoming “win-more” pub-stomping machines, so they overcorrected with absurd restrictions: a massive vision-blocking plate, a ban on passenger firing, and a forced 3-man limit.

As a result, jeeps now offer zero dominance in a winning game, and zero comeback potential in an uphill battle. They are useless metal coffins. We don’t want a brainless stat-check, nor do we want a gimped vehicle that can’t do anything. We want jeeps to be a high-risk, high-reward mobility tool that rewards good positioning and decision-making. Give them back their identity.
Here are a few suggestions for changes:

  1. Remove the obstructive sight plate on the Soviet jeep.
  2. Increase the squad size to 5, the same as the Italian event jeep squad.
  3. Allow all occupants to fire from their seats.
  4. Replace the Japanese jeep’s machine gun with the Te-4.
  • Jeep squads need improvement.
  • The current design is good enough.
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Yeah, I agree, but what exactly you propose to improve them?

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  1. Remove the obstructive sight plate on the Soviet jeep.
  2. Increase the squad size to 5, the same as the Italian event jeep squad.
  3. Allow all occupants to fire from their seats.
  4. Replace the Japanese jeep’s machine gun with the Te-4.
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That’s what you should’ve added to your suggestion, otherwise some moderator would’ve closed this down for being unclear or smt.

Regarding the proposal, I agree with most of them, except for 2:

  1. There is no space in most of the vehicles for a 5th member, the most is 4 if we add a loader for the gunner.
  2. I’m a bit tired of the Te-4, it’s an aviation MG, a Type 92 with a 100 round belt I saw on other post (can’t tell if it was experimental or field mod, but it was made of metal) would be a better option.
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You’re right. I’ll add these adjustments to the post right now.

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The dev team should consider that the event APC is already a 4-man squad, but it functions as a mobile spawn point, whereas the jeep does not. Therefore, I think it would be reasonable for the dev team to add one extra member to the jeep to compensate for its lack of a respawn ability.

Furthermore, the dev team could technically allow extra squad members to hang onto the outside of the vehicle. Even if the positions aren’t ideal, the dev team could simply prevent these passengers from firing. This would be realistic and prevent the squad’s overall firepower from becoming too oppressive.

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I dunno, Euthymia said they’ve discussed adding an additional member for the vehicle but they don’t know where. I think that says they’re not considering placing troopers outside the vehicle.

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3 is to few 5 is to many a4, four tmnt, not 5 power rangers unless someone is sitting on someones lap

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They need improvement but I think 4 is a better squad size.

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I think Jeeps should carry more boxes than it would be a bit more usefull for support use, now its hase a grenade box what is fine, i think it should have a second box with Medipacks or Ammo as well.

If now aircrafts can change the amount of fuel they carry , maybe there should be a option of what is in the second box.

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I am not sure of in reality if there was enough place for all jeeps to fit 5 people.

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Thank you for your post.

I agree.

Even the M1919 box I find very obstructive in view, its just a big green box whereas the real ones Ive seen were usually open and at least for me the M1919 sights specifically are terrible visual quality [as in the rendering]

I think 4 soldiers makes sense. 5 is definitely too many, like I wouldnt complain if they allowed 5 but as others have said on the actual vehicles irl I dont think one could fit 5, certainly not sitting normally.

The Kubelwagen as I understand it can carry 4 anyway, usually the devs go all Thanos about “Muh balanzz” so Im surprised they didnt allow 4 soldiers on the other jeeps.
After all the Willys Jeep can definitely carry 4 soldiers.

The Gaz is very similar design to the Willys so it would be able to accommodate 4 soldiers as well I should think.

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Here’s a screenshot from an episode of the 1960s TV show Combat! [obviously set in WWII].

This jeep is armed with an M1919 machine gun, as in Enlisted. Here we can clearly see four soldiers fit on a jeep.
[there would be photos actually from WWII proving this as well but I saw this episode last night so thought to share]

The Kurogane is a bit of a stretch but two soldiers could in principle squash in the back, this is a game after all. (and in the 1940s many Japanese men were quite small and undernourished so you probably could fit two side by side in the back).

For the Kurogane MG, there’s been a lot of debate personally I dont care as long as its not the current Type 11.

Personally Id choose the Type 92 HMG. It is an iconic and common WWII Japanese weapon that isnt often seen in game.
I dont know if it ever was mounted on Kurogane car but a HMG would be in like with the DsHK on the Gaz so there’s both precedent and also would assist in balance between USSR and Japan in Far Eastern battles.

And finally allowing occupants to fire from their seats YES WE NEED THAT TO HAPPEN

Indeed I find it very confusing the passenger is called a “shooter” yet cant shoot.

This must be changed to Passenger because so often Im trying to go from driver to the guy manning the MG and get confused which is which.

Soldiers need to get in the vehicle much, much quicker. Last battle I was ready to go and my AI was just standing on top of the jeep I dont understand why he wouldnt get in.

As someone said move the grenade box from the front of jeep and Gaz to the back, it just looks silly, I like to see the front grille and aside from occasional towing attachments or a water bag tied on I dont recall ever actually seeing a WWII jeep with a box on the front bumper bar like that.

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A 4th member could fit as a loader. MMGs/HMGs depended not on a single gunner, but on a crew of at least 2 persons

The M1919A4 required of an assistant, it was uncommon if mounted on jeeps but it was possible


The Type 92 required of an assistant to hold the ammo stripes preventing them from twisting, and also kept the weapon firing since his role consisted also on constantly loading more stripes on the weapon

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Jeeps should carry More types of boxes

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Agree 100% both an ammo and Grenade box would be better but maybe even picking up small arms like an MG or sub gun would be good.

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Minimum of four soldiers.

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o yes

Looks like the real Kübelwagen carried more stuff some times.
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Above the right weel there is a Box and where the reserve tank is there is place and there is stuff on the hood as well .


On the top of the right back weel there is stuff as well.

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I did find a cool Jeep picture


With Bags and Boxes over the front whels as well.
Source Datei:An SAS jeep manned by Sergeant Schofield and Trooper Jeavons of 1st SAS near Geilenkirchen, Germany, 18 November 1944. B11921.jpg – Wikipedia
With many vickers gun,s

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Atleast i did find a picture of a Gaz 64 with a box on the side.

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This is a duplicate of topics already forwarded

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