The "BIG" suggestion dedicated to new OBT players

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delete a zoom and limit a sniper squad or sniper like tank and plane.

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He is an old veteran from War Thunder’s forum in Siberia.

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It’s a lot of work for just testing. To make your idea of balance work, we’ll need a complete rework of the progression and campaign levels depending on the nation. I would appreciate that but if the majority don’t like it in the end, then that will be a lot of development time on nothing.

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I made a poll

There were 64 voters and 78% voted for asymmetrical balance

So your “majority” is actually a minority that happen to complain a lot when something shows up that they disagree with.

They look like majority but they aren’t

So don’t be a liar.

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â€șTrying to take my Winchesters after I took the time to grind them out and get the tokens for them
For shame
It’s the only gun to match the Vz24 and it’s so satisfying to use.
I can agree when it comes to an actually unique/powerful weapon like the StG or Fedorov Avtomat though.

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ahem 
M91/30
 ahem

But you have to agree that Winchester makes other rifles fall behind

I would make Winchester accessible to 2 troopers in lineup, I think that’s okay

or if you think that VZ is over powered, devs can nerf it

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:clown_face:
No, the Winchester really doesn’t. It’s all a manner of preference.
All the long rifles in Moscow are pretty much sidegrades of eachother in terms of which one you like the most.
And both sides get a nice quick firing rifle. There is nothing wrong with letting people fill their lineups with something like that.

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what about making the M1938 as quick-firing as VZ

You have to understand that history is what concerns me
Winchester was hardly ever used in ww2, Enlisted is said to be ‘‘historical’’ on their web page

The whole Soviet army armed with Winchesters is not going to be liked by many ww2 fans

Winchester is currently the best bolt action rifle in the game
Deals the same amount of damage as M91/30
Reloads faster than every other gun in the game

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:man_shrugging:
I don’t bother using the carbines aside from the 1907 tbh.

And WW2 fans are idiots, so I couldn’t care less. You’ll never make all of them happy and trying to do so will just alienate people.

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so why not make M1938 a ''fast firing** rifle for soviets. Currently it is kinda garbage and needs buffs

ww2 fans are the majority of people who play ww2 FPS

Others play R6, CoD, Squad and other modern and futuristic shooters

also this:

I mean you could agree that buffing M1938 and limiting Winchester wouldn’t kill the gameplay

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With the way they setup carbines in Moscow there’s not much TO do other than either buff the rate of fire.

That doesn’t contradict what I said though and you know it lol

I wouldn’t limit the winchester anymore than I’d limit the Vz24.
And I paid for mine with some gold I had left over because of this ass token system so I’d feel robbed tbh.

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That’s exactly what they need

Carabines should deal less damage but fire faster than the regular rifles

Winchester is a long rifle AND a fast firing rifle so it’s always going to be superior

That’s why I want Winchester to be more limited than M91/30

Not as limited as StG or Fedrov but still somewhat limited

Imo winchester is much better than VZ-24 but I could be wrong

I summon @ErikaKalkbrenner @5762269 to tell me how does VZ perform because I main Germans only in Normandy and have little experience with this gun

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Honestly they’re both p good. I like them both well enough when I play both sides.

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I play Soviets in Moscow, Germany and America in Normandy. I don’t use the VZ

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I have always played them once in a blue moon, but never too often and I have to blast music over all audio to not break my immersion of listening to the Russian speaking soldiers lmfao

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Actually that is not a good idea imo

I think you’ll get used to listening to russian soldiers if you play them for a while

Putting music over their voices is only going to make the process of “adaptation” slower

Again, this is just my opinion, I don’t know a lot of people who use sound as a relying factor in games so I don’t know how you guys work

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I’m not going to ask why, it seems that its pointless


But Let’s get back to the main topic, rifles weren’t fixed nor changed in this update, VZ preforms pretty much like it did in the CBT

And how I remember, it’s basically a different looking Kar-98k.

So I have to disagree that VZ performs better than the Winchester

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Until I learn how to speak Russian, I will not get used to listening to Russian soldiers.