Teaming up against high level tankers

im seriously pooped out whenever i get one of these matches, and i just leave by default. i just had a guy running around in a bt7 being invulnerable. panzer 2 shells dont get through a bt-7 and even if you meet eachother, the bt-7 can get through you any round he fires. you dont even have a chance to find a weakspot on that thing. a level 12 tank vs a level 2 tank. its already bad enough the t-60 is stronger than the panzer 2. i know its gaijin but ease off on the bias please.

Is it really that bad, I mean I haven’ played mentioned tanks, but if the damage models work correctly than the PZ II should wreck the BT 7 at the short ranges the tank meet in battles. T60 has more armor than T26 or BT7 do. I am just asking because really I do not know how they really modeled them in this game.

I may have been that tanker…I was in the entire game from start to finish in my BT7, killed maybe 6 PZ2s and only lost a commander. But the other thing is no infantry used AT rifles, no AT guns built, no one cooked TNT. There are many ways to handle tanks but the infantry keep acting like it isn’t their job

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Part of the Problem is, that the BT-7 the end of line Tank was given out during one of the twitch events. So while the German team has to grind through.
Furthermore the 2cm KW seems to be pretty nerfed compare to warthunder. There it can more or less reliably pen T-60s and BT-7s from the front. ust like The T-60 an BT-7 can pen the Pz. II frontally. And right now in enlisted T-60s mop the floor with Pz II.
In another post it was mentioned that the Pz.II overperformed in vbt and got overnerfed now…idk.

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As a BT-7 driver. I can tell you that the PZ-II shells go RIGHT through the tank. IDK what you are on about.

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PZ II and T-60 are more of a infantry killers (but ofc. you can kill tanks too), until you can get better tanks like the PZ III and BT-7.

The “better” tankers you speak of are not more than people who know a bit more about tanks and their layouts (through War Thunder or just in game info gathered from playing).

Most of the time (as a T-60 and BT-7 player) I tend to see PZ IIs not even looking at my general direction when Im attacking them (but you can clearly hear the enemy engine and enemy fire), 70% of the time when they do spot me, they dont even shoot (it takes them so long to start shooting I can literally swap from HE to AP) , and 30% of the time I get outmatched and killed cuz the PZ tanker knows what he is doing. Its more about tanker’s awareness than about “Oh I cant pen him”. Use tactics! Flank the enemy! Or tell your team to deal with a stronger thank with infantry, and while they do so, support them or retreat to secure your tank.

I wouldn’t blame the tanks and “balance” (tho, yes T-60 does indeed have better armor), I would blame the players! Why didn’t those “70%” of enemy tanks shoot at me? You said it yourself "im seriously pooped out whenever i get one of these matches, and i just leave by default. " are you afraid of a tank you could kill in no problemo?! I would agree that sometimes shells dont pen nor destroy what they where suppose to pen. But why leave the game and not shoot at your target. Its mostly player knowledge about the “tanks and foes” they meet in battle that makes them loose a tank.

Instead of calling in “BIAS”, how about we propose a “TRANING GROUND” for tankers where they would learn where to penetrate the target and what to do if they meet a “stronger” tank they cannot kill! Or a more in depth guide! Cuz I believe some “new” players dont know what they are against! That is where the fear comes from. If you know your enemy, there is no fear, just use your brain and you can defeat any tank!

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Never had a problem with tanks except the fact that it shows you where to shoot ughhh who needs aim assist when you’re naturally a good tanker lol. not as much brain skill involved. Just point, and shoot. I hope they add a realism mode, so that the function to show you were to shoot is removed. Honestly to myself it’s like having aim bot assistance letting you know where to shoot the target instead of it being based off of where you yourself knowing where to shoot. Totally different skill game if that was changed in my opinion. Besides that the tanks honestly function similar to war thunder, so I haven’t had issues with it. I just wish we weren’t forced into arcade mode when you play as a tank driver ughhh

there was no one in there with an anti tank rifle! i was the highest level in my team and i was only level 5 at the time. i was the only one in a tank being semi competent. but this happens so freaking often that we are fighting level 12 russians. its gaijin base. they level low lvl germans against high lvl russians. in ALL of my matches, ive seen nothing but t-60’s, t-26’s and bt-7’s. but i have yet to see a single panzer 3. and because gaijin made the grind as slow as fuck, i aint insentivised enough to pull that slow grind all the way to lvl 8.

im sorry but this game is clearly not for me. im sorry i ever even bothered with it. the game is a good game, but the free2pay mechanics gaijin implants is making the game tedious like a job, same as warthunder. less to forget you get bombarded with ingame ads about buying premium time, doing chore missions that get you a random weapon token, cause who doesnt want a pistol when they aim for a sniper rifle for their sniper soldier they just purchased using a silver token, that comes without a sniper rifle. at this point, i might as well play many of the other ‘simulations’ like hell let loose, heroes & generals, post scriptum, squad, beyond the wire, rising storm, WW1 verdun/tannenberg/isonzo, that arnt free to buy, but atleast dont make you buy a premium time that throws into your face that a subscription of 20 bucks a month makes everything work out twice as fast.

rubbish, it only took me one shot with a panzer 2 to absolutely destroy a BT-7 and I did the same with an explosive pack