could their be a little game mode that focus on vehicles or planes or motorbikes. Where the vehicles max is increased so everyone could play them and maybe special vehicles and anti tank and air. Half tracks or a tank that doesn’t respawn for air maybe paratrooper plane you can jump from that can be shot down. anti air tank for the campaign or you can sell. Perhaps one or two anti tank placements spawn only once. like pak 88.
it’s called War Thunder
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ah yes.
the most smart thing someone could ever say on a averange for this forum.
what makes you think that we want go on normandy along side R3 T20s or any other time traveler vehicles?
grow. up.
and come back to your senses.
regarding op, well, it’s a bit vague this idea.
but i’d love the ability to play it on custom matches.
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It is game with focus on squad infantry combat, vehicles are more in support role and they are broken as hell (damage model) so better go for War Thunder if you want vehicles only.
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it’s more of combined arms.
so, not really, vehicles aren’t just normal " support role " vehicles.
no doubt
again, i don’t see how it’s a solution for a possible gamemode within enlisted.
as long it’s just for custom games, i don’t see the problem with it.
just give a big open map, remove capture zones, and enable team tickets for both teams.
easy as that. the first one to run out of tickets, they lose.
( which could also work for TDM which i’m not a huge fan of it, but i know some lot would. )
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a campaign with only tanks, planes and mobile AA guns/AT guns would be awesome not gonna lie.
Holy shit. Don’t need to be so hostile. 
The problem rn is that the difference in power of the first and the last unlock tanks is simply too great for some campaign (I’m looking at you, Normandy). So, they wouldn’t get a chance fighting the superior tanks, they’ll be useless. Earlier tanks still kinda have some place in regular match cause there’s a lot of infantry. This simply wouldn’t work if there’s a gamemode with only vehicle stuff. Unless there’s a staging system (light, medium, heavy).
in conclusion:
this gamemode in regular squad match? Not right now.
this gamemode in custom match? why not, i couldn’t care less. at least make it in line with other CM suggestion (more sophisticated CM configuration where we can choose what gun/type of gun allowed etc).
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Skill … skill … skill. (I would go even father, it only needs the ability to see the difference between red and green …)
It is fake news that you can’t kill a top tier tank with a low tier … it is lies!
I just started playing Allies on Normandy, so I got the M5 Stuart and boy was I surprised that I could easily penetrate the side of the turret of the Panther. I mean I mostly ignored Stuarts in my Panther as I thought I was invulnerable against them.
On D-Day I took a place on the hills after the first cap point, where usually german tanks are. I rained death on the german infantry. Killed several Puma’s, Panzer III’s and IV’s, at a range of 200-300 meters.
Honestly before I started playing Allies I really was thinking, poor guys with such a equipment. Dude honestly … you talk utter nonsense.
It is always the same, flank, flank, flank. This is no big news! And the Stuart is so agile, I really like that tank!
I really start thinking that most people that complain are just not as good at playing the game, than they think they should. And than instead of thinking about better strategies and tactics they are like: Ahhh it is easy it is because the enemy has better equipment!
You know why Allies lose a lot? Because you have five squads of snipers sitting on the beach, than two tankers sitting there and than the other two are doing what ever but also do not get on the cap. Allies or Axis lose because most players are worse at winning the game than the bots! And than joker come along and are like “Bwahaha … whine … whine … Axis/Allies are so OP … cry … cry”.
It is not personal against you @42418299 there is a lot of your “kind” on the forums and it drives me insane!
I am so looking forward to max out Allies on Normandy to find out what weapons also “suck” and are inferior!
Just flank em am i right?
differencing between red and green is easy. But in case you don’t know, as people above already mention, damage model is kinda broken rn. sometimes it’s working sometimes it’s not.
i never mention the specific tanks. what i’m saying is the power difference is kinda big even within their own side. (puma and panther or stuart and jumbo).
It may be true they can kill their superior enemy if they tried hard enough but go ask newer player when they just first join the game and using puma trying to destroy level 32 user with jumbo. or the other way around.
elaborate what this “kind” is. It’s not like i’m crying for nerf, buff, or op stuff here.
all i’m doing is presenting some problem that my come. I mean, we’re here to discuss whether or not some suggestion good for the game right?
also as you can see. i have no problem with this suggestion. until some degree of course.
on that note.
pls do come around to allies Normandy. It’s actually getting better on the playerbase side lately hehe. maybe will meet on the same side .
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Yeah, which is kind of the reason why I stopped using the Panther and started using the Panzerfaust, cause as infantry you can flank faster and better.
Which puts actually lighter tanks to advantage. I have not uncommonly had to put 10+ shells from an panther into a Stuart and it was still alive … .
I belief (that is not knowing, there is a huge difference for me) the real power difference between an M5 Stuart and a Panther player is: the Stuart player most likely has played the game for five hours, the Panther player for 500 hours.
See I joined the OBT late and than I hadn’t played the game for several months (I rage quit because one day I would get D-Day seven times in a row). I was that guy that had to fight Jumbo’s with a Puma. So I learned how I could kill them with the Puma, how to use explosives and how to fly. And in my history of gaming (33 years!) I never played any flight games. I hated flying. It was just not for me. Thanks to grey zone Jumbo’s I played plane’s so often that in the end I was reliably able to kill Jumbo’s even with the 50kg bombs.
But yeah I can accept that other people might get frustrated by a scenario like that. But! That doesn’t mean that it is the balance fault. It is just the “laziness” of the players.
Thank you for asking!
Most of the discussion is more or less how unbalanced stuff is.
Is a late tier tank totally not killable by a low tier tank frontally?
Yes! But is it OP because of that? No!
Sure there is situations were you can not flank.
I see a lot of “discussing” about the equipment and not the tactics/how to use them.
So everyone is like “the developers have to nerf/ban/change what ever this” instead of looking how one can adapt and overcome an “obstacle”.
I mean I seem to not have changed your mind with claiming that I can kill every german tank with an M5 Stuart. Maybe it shifted your mind from that it is rather a problem of mixing noobs with veterans and I think that might be closer to the truth than the whole equipment “discussion”.
I would like that to happen
How do you flank jumbo or panther facing you from the corner of gray zone?
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true, but we’re talking tank here. which is actually bigger that a man.
Exactly. Both actually have some effect, it isn’t black and white. Both experience/skill/playtime of the player and the equipment. what’s why
(forgot to mention the MM can still be improved)
That’s why we can’t 100% nullify the balance reason. there’s reason why there’s a not-so-small difference in BR if you look the tank in WT. (between stuart and jumbo for exmpl)
also true, unlike WT (in which maps built specially for vehicle combat), some maps in Enlisted doesn’t really have enough room to manuver freely and flanking (because you can’t get pass grey zone).
didn’t meant to.
i just see this comment alot, and took time to answer it 
( that’s not my hostility and i’m sorry if it sounds like )
agreed. nothing that a few rules made from players cannot change ( on limitations )
that’s the spirit.
Panzerfaust, Piat, Bazooka, some times explosives.
You do know that you can go into grey zone? It is not instant death.
But yeah usually I use plane for grey zoning tank.
I am out here.
Cry with each other as much as you want. Have fun! Bye!
I sometimes have to do that if that tank on the beach is too dangerous and nobody else bothers. But still it is not optimal as you need to kamikaze with your squad just to get one camper.
I just can’t take that mentality any more. Sorry nothing personal.
Look the FW 190 is broken ever since they put it in the game. The steering is overly sensitive and the 20mm MK keep firing until empty once the hit 110 rounds. The bug was reported several times. It has not been fixed.
Now I can do different things about it:
a.) (I would say this the most common thing in the community) I keep complaining, I post about it several times a day in the forum and am really angry about it!
b.) I do not use the plane
c.) I use the plane and adapt
There are probably other options as well.
I just do not get it, really. I should stop going into these threads! I should stop commenting! It drives me nuts!
If people want to play a perfectly balanced game, they should play Team Fortress 2, same weapons, same classes, there have fun.
There is no single tactic in this game that is OP or a guarantee win. Even grey zoning tanks. You can outplay them. Damn sometimes you could just use another spawn point. But I see it too, sometimes I farm D-Day or Ver-sur-mar with my Panther, and I keep on killing the same guys, again and again and again. Not even zig zagging. Just running like Lemmings on a straight line from the beach to the bunker. Not once spawning an engineer on the other point to build somewhere else an rally. Not once spawning as an plane to kill me. Not once trying to flank. Honestly if you play a game like you are brain dead, than you shouldn’t complain.
If there are experienced players, I quickly get destroyed by either being outflanked and destroyed by explosive or by planes. And sometimes they just put a spawn where I have no line of sight.
But muuuuuuhhhhhhhh baaaaallllllaaaaaaannnnnnnncceeee.
But you can do both a) and c) it is not exclusive. Your logic is flawed.
You learn to adapt to it eventually but that doesn’t mean it is not broken and you aren’t allowed to complain about it on forums. Also the more complaints the greater chance devs won’t forget about it and maybe do something.
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Oh there is a big difference in the mindset.
In a.) you are the victim. You have no power (but to be vocal about it). For all we know, it might never change and you are forever, sad, angry … whining.
With b.) and c.) you just make the best out of it and are self-efficacy.
Ultimately no one is right in what ever they claim. Sure if DF would show numbers and statistics, there might be evidence of unbalances. But now it is all more or less how people perceive the game, the factions, how biased they are.
The MP43/1 is a great example. Before that weapon I would play very differently with SMG. Once I “mastered” the MP43/1 in Normandy I started using the MP40 in Moscow and Berlin in a similar fashion and oh wonder, it became nearly “OP” as the MP43/1.
People always assume that someone else is to be blamed for their own shortcomings. But hey that is the world we are living in, not only in regards of playing a game.
That is probably why I am so angry about that way of thinking, because with gaming I want to escape from real-life, namely “victimhood” just to be confront with it here again. Damn you … universe! Now I will touch my ears while saying WUSAA and trying to accept that it is like it is, otherwise it would be different.
Thanks for the insights!
Have a good day!