Yeah, I don’t remember which thread it was, (I think the paratrooper announcement thread) but the helpers said that they will be added to the standard progression eventually, but they will be harder to get than they are now.
I understand that, but it’s not p2w by definition of that term for two reasons. One, you don’t have to pay to get them because there are free ones available, and as mentioned above, they will be in progression at some point. Second, this advantage is not unique to paratroopers. A machine gun squad, or hell, even a sniper squad, can climb to the roof and cause shenanigans. I can’t speak for everyone, but in my case, 9/10 attempts to land on the point usually end with my entire squad getting picked off upon landing.
I feel that attack aircraft spam is a much more toxic method. A couple of 250kg bombs can clear a point and destroy nearby fortifications with ease. At least with paratroopers you can fight back in the moment, but in this case, if you don’t have an AA gun or fighter already, you’re doomed.
The ones in normandy ARE p2w by definition. They have more HP than possible for most other squads in the game. They have insane weapons. And currently players have no alternative means to get any other paratroopers in normandy other than paying money.
Paratroopers as a mechanic are great. But specifically the joker squad in normandy is broken p2w even without the paratrooper mechanics added on.
If the event ones were for normandy, and they all had reasonable weapons like m1 carbines but the premiums ones had the HP perk and the innate premium traits like everything researched that would be alright. But as it they’re far better than the US event squad, by miles, and you can’t even get the event squad in that campaign.
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They’re a cool idea for a premium squad. Giving them a good SMG, alright. You earned it for 60$ I suppose. But giving them drum thompsons on every soldiers and additional health is bullshit. Having them and their powerful if not directly overpowered mechanics behind a paywall is p2w bullshit.
No, not by definition. P2W means paying money to get a distinct advantage over free players who cannot get that same advantage. The Thompson squad’s only advantage is its huge mag capacity. It still suffers from all the other M1928’s downsides plus with added reload time. The German assault rifles still outclass them in almost every way. Paratroopers don’t any unique mechanics that cannot be easily countered either.
What is really going on is a repeat of the AS44 debacle in Berlin, which was also not P2W. What happened was it gave new players the ability to be competitive with later war equipment, which pissed off the mid and high tier players. The same thing is happening in Normandy now. That’s a problem with the game itself, not the squad.
Here’s a link to a video that explains this perfectly:
Yes and no. They only have 12% vitality, when most soldiers can get up to 35%. I will say that vitality is a stupid perk and should just be removed from the game.
You are right here, the fact that the main focus of a major update was total BS. They should have just been put in the progression.
I would say that instantly getting one great assault squad with all the new paratrooper mechanics for cash when everyone else will likely get a weaker squad closer to the event one in several months, at the very least, and after a more then likely a massive grind is a distinct advantage. And that’s looking at the larger picture. The current situation is that, again, you have no alternative for this in normandy other than paying. In short, that’s by your definition a distinct advantage that you have to pay for.
To a point. But I’m not the only one to hold the tommygun in the highest regards when it comes to straight up CQC.
I would argue this is worse since while that was painful to face you could at least say, look, I can get my STGs, MKBs, Fedorovs, whatever. Bottom line, I think they both massively dropped the ball for not having a campaign progression paratrooper squad to go with those premiums squads and added insult to injury in making them really too good for what they’re supposed to be. I would make a case in point and say that if they made the two event squads premiums, 100% as they are, and made them exclusive for a month or two, it would make just about everyone happy.
As an added bonus rather than turning Normandy on it’s head it might have attracted some players to Pacific instead of it being only slightly ahead of Tunisia when it comes to one side being 3/4ths AIs every other match. Make the game healthier and better in long term rather than pulling something from the gaijin playbook and dangling a sealclubber to make some quick cash.
Its worth noting that this issue will probably be fixed with new matchmaking and BR because I would expect that both the AS-44 and Thompson 100 would be considered high BR weapons, meaning they would only be matched against players would have similar gear equipped like the German assault rifles. They would also get access to the Kiraly SMG which would be a great counter to the Thompson. But will have to see. I see this as a problem with the balance of the game, not with the individual weapon.
Also, according to some very interesting wording in the news post, this update might be coming much sooner than we think, possibly in the next two weeks to a month. There’s currently a sale going on until May 12th with the Stalingrad and Pacific booster packs, after which they will be removed from the game and the squads will be sold for their faction individually. This makes sense considering the airborne update was very content lacking, they were possibly devoting most of their resources towards the progression update.
Hear, hear. One can only hope things will go as you propose and DF has their priorities in order. I for one would hate to see this game go the route of Crossout and Star Conflict, games with great potential and unique gameplay that was never developed to its full potential but rather left to stagnate and left on life-support with only real content for years being the next shiny meta premium pack.
Exactly. I think the game will be alright but they really gotta step up and listen to the community. They’ve been doing a lot better now, but if we get another repeat of the High Caliber update situation it’s probably gonna be the end of the line for a lot of players.
