Ppl are afraid of stug 3 being meta OP at BR2. Hell froze
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all stugs 
by 1 BR
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Im actually surprised how they didnt add stugs to each tier, I mean yeah having stug each step would be lame but yet, having improved stugs would be better than having 30 copy paste pz4
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Gameplay wise it definitely wouldn’t.
Why?, instead of pzE, f1 I would loved to see TT stug for infantry support, and instead of 4 different pz4 in same tier, I would like to see another stug for example lets say, stug F in br2, stug G in br3 TT instead of premimum. with little improvements like, high versions with MG, or better gun, or little bit armor etc…
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This is too crazy.
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Why not?
Let’s spread this movement. Give the StuG III more respect! #JusticeForStuGIII
Now that were on it, let’s also push for the introduction of the StuG IV, which would be a novelty given the fact that not even WT has it, and the MG on top would justify placing it in BR-III fair and square. I mean, how difficult could it be to introduce it? They’re just lazy and uninspired at this point, really, no offense. They’re swimming in options of potential new vehicles here.
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Adamnpee, please understand this is not a wrong approach, this is the exact way that tank destroyers were used in real life, a cheaper chassis a powerful cannon that could be mass produced to face heavily armored vehicles and this should be the same way that these tanks should be used in game ffs, if everyone has access vehicles with cannons powerful enough to deal with up tiers are given, then the issue of king tigers abusing shermans, think for a second when you reply to me you almost never do this and this is the exact reason why I usually ignore your comments.
I’m pretty much asking for this vehicle to be down tiered clearly, and as I said
Yes there are way more factors to be taken in consideration but to start with this basic measure will be way better than just leave these vehicles catching dust for another whole year.
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For the western Allies
M10 Should be moved down to BR II
M18 Should be moved down to BR III
M36 should be added to BR IV
For Germany
StuG III F should be moved to BR II
Jagdpanzer IV Should be moved to BR III
Panzer IV/70(A) Could stay at BR IV or could be moved down to late BR III (Just because the chassis is awfully bad in my opinion, but the cannon does work perfectly fine at BR IV.
Panzer IV/70(V) Should be moved down to BR IV and given APCR ammo.
I think the SU thing from the soviets is BR IV and I think it is good were it is.
I don’t play Japan so I wont say nothing about their stuff.
How is it crazy? No turret rotation, no MG and average armour.
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With less HE it might work
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Less HE will make it useless, every tank needs at least some anti infantry power
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I tried to play on this. The most helpless thing I have ever used. Changing BR will not change anything. But BR3 is more than relevant today, if you do not want to play on this on BR3, then on BR2 you will not play on this…
Well gameplay wise it already feels like a worse Semovente, but the guns AT power is an improvement for sure.
Either Germany needs a BR2 vehicle with better armor so German tank dont all get one hit killed guaranteed all the time - or they need better firepower. T28E is really annoying to deal with.
Panzer IIIN had the benefit that T28E was required to aim, but now all German BR2 vehicles have 50mm of armor.
I see only STUG III F as a reasonable vehicle for this right now, Panzer III L is basically like Panzer III M which already is kinda OP for BR2.
Or Panzer IV F1 should get some HEATs, I dont know…
There aren’t many options for early German tanks that have above 50mm of armor.
Maybe a T28E nerf could do the trick - in the end Panzer IIIN was moved to BR3 because it was best in anti infantry AND anti tank at the same time, this now also applies to T28E.
…For Germany (HEAT is not a good AT round…you accept it as good for when your APHE round doesnt cut it). T-28E was always the better anti tank. (and consquently will still do the Stugs job better. even if the Stug moved to BR 2…while still have machine guns, good HE and a turret)
I dont know what people thought was gonna happen. T-28E was always right up there
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I usually just get a marder to deal with those, but yeah I would still rather pick a stug over the marder.
Yes! They need to do this!
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Has been forwarded in another similiar topic thanks
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