StuG III A currently a forgotten about premium that sits in the same BR as the current downtiered StuG III F. While suffering from the same disadvantages as the rest of the StuGs, the A has a worse gun than the F while a similar TD, the Italian M14 75/32 sits in the TT at BR 1.
Pretty sure Euthy said that options to change the shell layout were considered, either replacing the 80mm pen heat with the 115mm pen HEAT or replacing the APHE with HE shells, so it likely won’t be lowered to BR1 because of that.
No, it doesn’t. Against infantry its gun is superior over Stug F’s gun thanks to much faster reload speed.
It’s only worse in tank vs tank encounters. And those are much less important than tanks vs infantry ones.
It just need meaningful rearrangement of ammunition.
Come on man, you know a long barrel 75mm still has anti infantry capabilities and can deal with more armoured tanks. Reload speed is kind of irrelevant.
Tank vs tank encounters are definitely more meaningful. How are you supposed to support infantry when you can’t deal with the enemy tanks first?
Devs have said and I tend to agree: no medium caliber he for br 1. U already have the pz 3 j and flamepanzer that’s enough op br 1 vehicles.
But the main issue is that the turreted Pz.IV tanks are way better than the StuG III A.
With the buffs to BR 2 and BR 3, and some vehicles being moved down, some tanks are bound to get shifted to BR 1.
That’s just a consequence of vehicles having greater variety in viability than weapons do. That means compression is inevitable
This rule just feels pretty bad in the first place.
Why do they have to restrict BR 1 from having large-caliber guns?
Cuz it’s br1???
BR 1 still needs to be able to compete against BR 2 though….
And the pz 3 j more than does that. Ridiculously overtuned
Compression is indeed inevitable, but the problem right now is that the tech tree compression has gone way too far.
Compared to the more mature system in War Thunder, the tech tree compression and matchmaking issues in Enlisted have made some squads basically useless.
I feel like the compression is just excessive.
Show how compression is excessive beyond vehicles.
And the StuG A would offer an alternative option. You can’t deny that in its current state it should be BR 1.
I can. Cuz I already think the pz 3 e has too strong of anti infantry capabilities. Not everything needs to be viable. That kind of philosophy leads to power creep which would rlly suck for this game sense u need to buy gear and whatnot
Again with the power creep argument. Making something usable doesn’t mean power creep. This thing has too many drawbacks compared to the panzer 4. So no you can’t.
The suggested buff will give this thing HE and HEAT making it even better for infantry making it most likely better than the 4 E. So which would you rather?
Why are you comparing it to the 4 e the best tank of br 2 when ur trying to put it at br 1?
Because it has the same gun but the E has all the benefits of a turret and MG. Also the F1 is better.
The Stug A vs Stug F comparison wasn’t the best he could chose. Both tanks are inferior to their respective BR counterparts such as the Pz IV E and the Pz IV H. These are the tanks we should compare the Stugs with.
Stug A vs Pz IV E leaves the Stug in the dust. No turret, no coaxial MG, no hull MG, less crew, slower traverse, roughly half(!) as much ammo capacity while having the same reload and roughly the same mobility results in zero reason why anyone should take the Stug A into his BR 2 loadout. It’s not even a close race.
Nor would it make sense to use it as a backup tank, as the Pz III J1 is already the overall better choice for most players over Pz IV E as it offers versatility. The Stug A is just dead on arrival for BR 2 and one of the worst purchases you could make.
Any vehicle should be balanced by the principle to aspire that it fulfills a certain role at it’s BR and isn’t noticeably better or worse than other tanks of its BR.
Moving the Stug A to BR 1 would mean it has to compete with the Pz III J where the J would still offer a turret, more than twice as much ammo (quintuple if you consider how useless the Stug’s APCBC is), coaxial & hull MG, better mobility and better AT capabilities at an only slightly lower RoF.
Conclusion: On BR 2 the Stug is completely out of competition. On BR 1 it could at least be considered a premium option for grinding while still being overall weaker than the Pz III J.
There are currently zero arguments to keep the Stug A on BR 2 and I also don’t see how it could be buffed in a sufficient way to make it a viable choice for BR 2.
In any case I would highly recommend to replace the APCBC with HE. Even when ranking it down to BR 1.
