Squads should come by default at max size

One of the most annoying things in this game will always be the squad grind, and one of the bigger reasons is that squads are really difficult to level with only 4 soldiers in most cases. It’s even worse when you don’t have premium or extra squad slots purchased, because you’re forced to remove one of your main squads for a weaker, underleveled one.

This might also be one of the reasons why BR1 and BR2 feel so bad and empty at times. New players with incomplete squads are matched against players using fully decked out squads, and there’s basically nothing a new player can do. Not only are they missing important soldiers like engineers,radio man or at soldier, they’re also at a straight up numbers disadvantage.

I suggest making squads come at their maximum size by default to give new players more of a chance and to make the grind less annoying in general.

Should squads come at max size by default?
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I voted no.
They should rather make BR1 +/-0 to ensure that the new players get a chance to learn the ropes before beging butchered by vets.

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Having to level a stock squad is annoying, but its so satisfying once you have maxed it out.
Starting with max soldiers from the get go would make progress feel less rewarding.

Besides, the more squad levels there are in total, the less XP you need for a single level, making the initial progression of the squad faster.

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As if a vet couldnt just do this its not about the uptiers its about vets or even just people that like low brs and are still rather new having a huge advantage over new players

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There is a difference between progression and being unable to do anything just because you are a new player

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All I see is that body armour damage reduction needs to removed and SMGs nerfed.

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Even a M3 SMG would still do allot more than a bolt action so nerfing smgs is just pointless and would make it unfun and yes delete Body armor but that has been discussed allot already so no reason to bring it up here

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I believe this suggestion is very important because most Enlisted players are somehow unaware when it comes to maxing out a squad. It is very common to play br5 and see rifleman squads of 5, assaulter squads of 4.

While you could argue that something is being lost by not getting an assaulter squad from 4 to 7, this change would greatly help with new player retention and also everyone’s experience. Games would feel larger in scale and more action packed.

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I think all squads should at least come with one special slot unlocked allowed to take an engineer, bomber, or radioman.

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Should start with an engineer slot unlocked instead, much more useful… it’s hell for some late squads like flamethrowers or snipers with 11k to get past level one, without a steady source of XP (rallies), especially since you’ll be a detriment to your team whilst you’re not able to have one.

Squad size is more satisfying to unlock.

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That would be very useful for new players, especially because on certain occasions I’ve seen a clearly new player spawn with a squad of 3 soldiers, which is extremely unfair to them because there are veteran players who already have everything maxed out and play BR I-II to take advantage of new players, and having full squads would at least help counteract that disadvantage a little.

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And grinding the XP boost levels first.