I just discovered the Charlton event squad from Tunisia now can have an engineer (idk when it got added but somehow I have it researched?)
But other event squads like the Berlin PPK-42 squad still can’t have one?
Similarly, I’ve heard some older premium squads received engineers. But why not MP-18 and M3 Field squads? They wouldn’t be meta overpowered with an engineer at all.
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Because of the high caliber mg update which the engineers could build, they added them for the refering mg squads. thats why…
If assaulters get an special building, they probably will get an engineer too
What is sad is, we had to complain without end for them to stop being lazy and do it. Like we just did for Stalingrad FA slots…
It’s always like this with them, they need the entire community in uproar before they change stuff… It’s tiresome.
we have bn asking for it for a long time.
they only added on MG squads from event or old 4 man premoid that didnt had it on high caliber update to use the HMG squad.
i guess we have to request it more, or wait… i dont know
Baby steps
yes sir.
tbh the eng on old premiums isnt even needed.
would be nice if they had them, but they are still very much playable without.
It would be interesting to see premium & event squad work similar to paratrooper box - after spawning, you can use similar mechanic to change your secondary equipment in the field, like converting 1 or 2 soldiers to engies or radiomen.
the TRUE reason the old squads wont be updated: to create pressure on old owners to buy NEW stuff.
i am surprised people here still dont get it.
if old stuff gets updated → less reasons to buy new stuff
old stuff doesnt get updated → strong reasons to buy new stuff.
and they will never change that.
ehrm… no
if old gets updated, more reasons for some people that so far didnt, to purchase old.
if new gets introduced, people who purchase still and will purchase either way.
It’s true, for now.
But after the upcoming war thunder conversion, with br limitations, it will become like @Shiivex said.
Right now they boost sales this way by creating obsolescence with old squads, and inciting whales to get newer , more powerful ones.
Once Enlisted becomes war thunder with boots, thought, it will become irrelevant: ppl who want to play at low br, won’t need those newer, sometime pay to win squads. Oldies will shine again… Which would be the perfect time for df to stop being lazy and implement premium squad specialists choices, to boost old prem squads again.
I would say low-BR premium squad dont really exist, taking as example the first one i ever seyed in the game, the tokarev M1927 is more a mid-BR Gun, or the mp18 squad is mid-BR because it come with a drum magazine, And even premium BA squad come with a fast Rof BA…
your analysis lacks real life marketing understanding.
you miss, that instead of updating the old squads, they can make very similar/the same squad but better.
this way they still give whales a reason to get the new squad and since its stronger than the old one, they will demand a higher price.
the old squads have to stay in the game with low prices to create a contrast for buyers to rationalize
“oooh this old squad costs 10$, the new better squad costs 15$ so it must be worth the money”
this is basic marketing and while lacking people who actually understand the game, DF has people who at least understand marketing.
understanding this helps you to predict how DF will react in the future.
the only reason why DF agreed to giving proper compensation to stalingrad buyers is me understanding their strategy, sharing it with my audience and then lots of people complaining on social media about being fucked over and THIS created positive change for the whole community.
not understanding how DF/Gaijin thinks on the other hand will never create positive results.
Not really.
There’s a certain limit a company mustn’t cross, and while I believe they’re already dangerously close to it, I doubt they’d be as stupid as to release “mp18 squad 2.0” instead of merely upgrading it for more ppl to buy it. That, would be a lack of real life business understanding, because it would hurt them more in the long run… Especially knowing they DID modify older lmg squads once, to make them relevant with new mechanics. They cannot make too much double standards.
As for prices, they already sell newer, more powerful squads at increasingly high prices, nothing new here.
Knowing they will release on Steam and that reviews account for a lot, here, another reason not to make such a dumb move.
As for complaining about Stalingrad FA for slots, I’m probably one of the guys who was the most vocal here, too. So again, you don’t say nor know anything new or more than us:
I already know all of it.
The devs have proven they can add engineers, and yet we keep on waiting…
Agreed!
100% agree: To summarize what you said slightly differently…
Older premium squads without an engineer = MIGHT be purchased by people who don’t own them— mostly new players (a smaller pool of people).
New premium squads with an engineer = MORE LIKELY to be purchased by entire player base—new and old players (a much larger pool of people).
After all, why purchase a squad without an engineer when you can purchase one that does have an engineer for a little more money? Old players who also purchased the older premium squads end up making two purchases—not just one = double profit for the company.
Finally, by NOT updating the older premium squads… this gives people a less expensive option to choose from—especially those who may not be able to afford a more expensive squad. Furthermore, for those who DON’T build rally points, older premium squads without an engineer (and are less expensive to buy) end up being a better choice.
Maybe It was a mistake to allow engineers in any other squad than the engineer squad in the first place??
Forcing a non automatic squad to be required for meta.
just a thought.
Idk, rallies can be rare sometimes as it is. With only engineer squads being able to build rallies I think rallies would just get even rarer. Forcing players to choose between their meta federov squad and their engineer squad is just going to lead to more people purchasing axes and flasks imo.
yeah, that is true, Didn’t say it was a good thought 
Hot take: if rallies were only usable by your own squads (like in BF), then every player who wanted to spawn closer to action and not run from spawn every time, would be forced to take a non-automatic squad to build one instead of spawning their 7-men STG squads on other people’s rallies.