only fools judge weapons from paper stat I hope you are not one of them
Tbh M2 carbine is something not bad nor good either, but it fits the role when in 9 men squad combined with tnt pouch
Again you judge weapon for how you can spam her and you have to say it, if you put a classification of weapons withaut explain your judgment wiew, you appear like a clown in this way
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you do notice the worse ROF and it loves to jump more than the MP43/1 while playin it, and i speak from experience
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In Stalingrad, all weapons have a higher recoil. But the bullet dispersion is 0.15 with the Mkb vs. 0.7(!!!) with the MP43
I still like the MP43. No it didnt need nerfed and I dont agree with it but there is something people dont consider: damage over distance. At 100 meters the MP43 stock still deals 6.2 damage! The Thompson drops to 4.6 and the M38 beretta gets a weak 3.3. It is still the best close to mid weapon for assaulters
P.s. the PPSH drops to 2.8 at 100
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I disagree with the nerf as it was unnecessary, and it felt a bit like a slap in the face to nerf it JUST as the very good fedov gets implemented. Is it a bad weapon? Certainly not, it’s still good! Is it worth using it over fg42II? Definitely not.
I also hate it’s reload animation (as much as fg42II), even if it has nothing to do with performance. (Personal preference)
Mkb42h is lovely in Stalingrad however, perhaps because every weapon here has augmented recoil it performs real well.
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FG42 II is still the best weapon I’ve used in the game. It does everything very well
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How did it get Nerfed?
Not that much. For him 10 is more than 16.
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The damage upgrade got changed from 20% to 10% and the rate of fire upgrade got removed, also they removed the reload upgrade,
Instead it got -15% vertical and horizontal recoil instead of -10% and also another -15% shot derivation make it a total of -30%.
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The Thompson shoots more than one and a half times faster, and at 100 meters the battle is rarely fought. At 80 Thompson will kill with two hits, just like MP43, but it shoots more than one and a half times faster
well, my, and i think everyone else biggest gripe is, you grind a lot for this weapon that used to be decent in ““long”” to mid range, and you now you get slapped with an assault rifle that it’s basically more efficent in close quarter.
the same that you had to get use up until the kp.
not good.
people are not asking for laser guns, but having something different.
instead, the accuracy has been reduced ( with the dispersion ) then the recoil has been increased, and last but apparently not least, damage got nerfed.
i could have been fine with the first two, but not the last one.
sure, i can send you thousands of clips where i mow down bots in close quarter. but now, it’s not like it used to. dunno about the others, but i used to use the stg in tap fire. which now you have to pray that your opponents aren’t using good AIS with incredible accuracy.
just to get an idea, i reccomend to play on custom games against bots. there, you can notice that even if you are in a close quarter, the opponents have more chances if are in the open, and at medium range to kill you in one shot when you are using at least 2 to 3 ( sometimes even 4 or 5 due to dispersion ) bullets on the opponent.
while you are still firing on the squad, his buddy will react and one tap you.
i don’t personally mind it that much as i rarely use kps due to limit my self in using them.
but i’m a bit disappointed by those.
but, what’s the price to deal when devs them self do not want to limit those weapons their selves. just nerf them to the ground because are available for everyone.
( no, the kp isn’t entirely useless. but still. what’s the point of using it if i can get a beretta 40 or mp35 that roughly works simialar just for the close quarter. AR are not designed for close quarter… neither the kp ).
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Yes these are trade offs. The Thompson is weaker at longer ranges and the MP43 is weaker closer in. Would you like everyone to have the same weapon? I am against the nerf however and think the MP43 should be even better at longer ranges to make the difference more clear
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Thompson is obviously better at the distances of the real game. It is impossible to shoot at 100 meters with a variance of 0.7 (like the MP43).
For example the AVS has 0.28
Thompson was probably better at CQB in real life as well. Have you seen how slow a real MP43 shoots? If anything its far faster in game.
The issue is the MP43 doesnt shine at distance because of the accuracy and damage now
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In life, a single hit from a 7.92x33 round is likely to be fatal.
A person can survive a .45 acp at least 2-3 hits.
While the difference in damage between the MP43 and Thompson is 7% (think of that absurdity), the MP43 is just worse.
Doubtful and very location dependent especially at close range. But yes the 7.92X33 is now massively under powered to what it should be
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Yes, that’s what I’m talking about.
Right now the MP43 can’t be in its niche because of the spread. And even if it gets a little better, the Thompson will easily dominate at 50 yards, and you rarely need to shoot beyond that.
The Thompson should definitely be weaker than the MP43, because sooner or later a Thompson with 50 or 100 rounds will show up.
If it has such an advantage over the MP43 as it does now, it will become garbage.
Cause upgrading it is essentially pointless now.
The low damage is also so unrealistic it hurts. Like, it has less hitpower than a fricking thompson?! WTF?!
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