Since everyone agrees that the P 47 retardedly op plane, when is it getting nerfed? 10 rockets still is absurdly opressive to deal with, and lets not even talk about P 47 spam, where you shoot one down and another one is instantly spawned ready to blast literally the whole map with another 10 rockets, the massive bomb that it carries its just the cherry over the cake, also since its so fucking small is not as easy to shot down with AA guns as a Ju 188, Im sure there must be a healty way to deal with this plane, just as the devs nerfed axis tanks mg overheat rate, so any ideas? peraphs they could remove a few rockets? some of the .50 cal ammo? maybe the bomb? maybe 8 seconds of taking cover its very impactful when you made the game so fast phased that one objective can be taken so fast? can we at least talk about this?
I played hundreds battles as normandy axis and I never had problem with this plane. You probably suffers on skills issues and this is your made up excuse for it, sorry to tell you mate.
wait…
What lvl is the p47 again? lvl 27, right? Well at this lvl, considering how nonexistent allies player base is atm, you shouldn’t meet too much of those… and they have 8, not 10 rockets.
So, while I can agree HVAR , or any rockets whatever the faction is exeedingly annoying, cancerous even, for boots on the ground… I don’t think allies deserve a nerf.
Come on, you know the expression “don’t hit a man on the ground”? Allies in Normandy are already at their lowest atm, let em breathe a lil.
And if rockets are that mean to you (I know they are, I hate em too), the starter axis plane has some very, veeeery powerful ones of his own you can spam too…
Allies get better CAS, Axis gets better tanks. That’s the way of Normandy. You want what the other side has, go play it.
if you think that they are to weak, maybe they can buff other aspect of the faction, there is no need to keep the most cancerous thing of the game being the most atractive thing of a faction
ok how does it matter if axis normandy gets better tanks if 99% of the allied planes can take out every single tank of the germans? even the earliest one, im not talking about german tanks, im talking about a specific issue, I did not make a post about the p 47 to speak about german tanks
You can’t remove the P-47 from the context of Normandy as a whole, because it’s in place to balance the German tanks. Sure in a vacuum it’s OP, but if you look at the vehicles in Normandy, you will realize that just about everything near the middle or the end of the campaign is OP to some degree. That is just how Normandy is, and the P-47 isn’t anything special. Even if you want to talk about just air, Axis doesn’t lack for decent options with the Ju 188 having the largest payload of any plane in the game, and the Bf 110 being just as good or arguably better as a P-47 in the right hands due to them having buffed the 30mms, while the 37mm was always good.
Have you even played with tiger? I would love to see your Normandy stats. You are so disillusioned…
the bf 110 is not as good neither better than the p 47, Im not asking for the removal of the p 47 im asking for a “adjustement” if you wish, as a whole not only for the p 47 but for the campaing as a whole, because it is simply not fair tho have that much power on a plane, the german planes have very clear weakneses, bf 110 has a very limited amount of ammo and rockets unlike the p 47, and it is way bigger and slower, and the Ju 188 is very easy to predict because the bombs cannot be shooted or aimed or spreaded over the whole map unlike rockets, they go on a straigt line on the same trajectory of the plane, yes the ju can hold some bombs and not throw them all in a single run but the plane is big and not really slow but not really that fast for a big target, if people is not really willing to nerf the p 47 as a whole, then can we at least have the 250kg bomb for the bf 109 g6? because that plane also has very little ammo, and his bombs are almost useless against tanks, can we at least have some more ammo on it? or something? Wrfr rockets might see very good in theory but once you realize that you cannot destroy tanks conscistlently with them you have a big disadvantage on any skill even match even if you have the better tank because it is literally just a matter of seconds before the dumbest mf kamikazee just launches 6 rockets or 10 lol, or any bomb and kills you, unlike allied players im not biased, and Im willing to talk about nerfs to my favorite faction, because I want the game to be better, as a whole, not only to make my faction overpower complaining about everything else while ignoring the op stuff of my faction, I dont like the Ju 188 either, it is not fun to kill everyone so easely, reapiting the same pattern one time after another, I wish I could do more stuff, with different unlocks not just sit at a tiger over a hill and obliterate any tank while also just being the easy target for every plane it sucks that in order to be able to play you must have either the tiger (or panther) or the ju because if you dont have those then jumbos will just over power your team while you can do barely anything to them it is just so boring, I want more variety
also, if you gonna reply once againt something like
“give up I dont want the p 47 nerfed everything is shit and it will keep being like that” dont even bother on answering
P47 - no problem, US vehicles are terrible and it’s normal to be compensated for them in terms of air power.
Wiped off the map over and over again by Kamikaze P47s - frustrating.
I could shoot them down, but I had a hard time shooting them down before they dropped all their rockets and bombs, and when I shot down a P47, there were always more P47s waiting to respawn. Not to mention the fact that there was little I could do about ground fighting when I stayed on a fighter or AA gun. Either I don’t support my teammates who are fighting for the battle zone, or I wait to see the P47 wipe out most of our infantry and vehicles at once - which do I choose?
The above accusations apply perfectly to the Ju188, it’s only because too many noob Germans are sightseeing in the sky in their BF110s that makes the Ju188 less annoying, the vehicle balance in Normandy is 100% screwed up. Balancing one OP thing with another OP thing is the laziest way to balance.
The Bf 110 needs more skill to use because most of it’s CAS comes from cannons, but the rockets are no slouch either.
The Ju 188 may be sluggish, but it has 4 gunners to protect it, while the A-20 only has 2.
The G6 4x 50kg bombs on the G6 is fine, you just have to aim well. They are a larger explosive than the P-38s 6x M8s, which while good at killing tanks, are the worst of the CAS armaments in Normandy to use against infantry provided you have the skill to use the other armaments.
As for WFRs, you can one hit tanks, you just have to mind drop, dispersion and convergence because rockets only kill tanks if you direct impact them.
I’ve played both sides of Normandy to max and I can tell you that both sides are balanced, provided you have the skill to use it. The point of Normandy is that both sides get OP stuff, so that it balances it out that way. The Vehicles are cranked up to 11, and you get access to stupid powerful guns relatively early. It’s balanced on the fact that both sides always have the ability to instantly shut down the enemy at any time with an intelligent play.
Then it sounds like Normandy is not the campaign for you. Normandy is the most vehicle focused campaign, with the most powerful vehicles in the game (KT and IS2 are arguably equal or worse than the normal Tiger E for several reasons, and Normandy CAS is significantly better than that of Berlin). If you want a campaign that is less vehicle focused, Pacific has the opposite problem where the infantry has incredibly strong infantry AT weapons from the end of the war paired with tanks that literally date back before the war began. Moscow is also another place where you might find something more your speed, as tanks and planes are a lot less important, however they are still useful on certain maps and situations. If you don’t how Normandy plays, you don’t have to play it.
Way to show you didn’t even read what I said.
AAA can take out planes in a couple hits now while having the turn rate of a modern mbt. Make use of this instead of crying. Sometimes you die to CAS, that’s life telling you it’s time to build AAA.
you are talking literally everything but the p 47, pointless to read, you are not providing any real tought you are just talking everything that I already know
P47 compensates in air what they dont have on ground thats all …
Just build AA gun or learn to fly your BF109 G10 or FW
The P-47 may have ground pounding fire, but in a dog fight Axis planes tear it apart. And there is the balance.
Topic Closed since it end up in a Skill issues war and insults.