SMG Balance

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Surely I am not the only one noticing this but let see the tech tree and BR:

  1. Soviet early SMGs are either overperforming or undertier, cuz you can’t seriously tell me the PPS42/43(600/700rpm 35rnd) counterparts are MP3008(450rpm 32rnd with no accuracy), OVP(800rpm but 25rnd, crap reload and dogshite ADS) and FANB 43(400rpm 40rnd), while OG 43(550rpm 20rnd) is BR4? Or legit you are telling me the only usable SMG for BR2 is the MAB 38A 20rnd from T1? And what makes the MAB 38 40rnd a BR4 gun?

  2. MP38/40 vs PPSH 41 box at BR3? 500ish rpm with 0.7 spread vs 1000rpm+ with 0.21 spread??? At this point just make the MP41r unlockable for that BS

  3. Sorry but Kilary M39 at BR5? While having more recoil and less damage than Fedorov?

  4. Japs SMG are overperforming compared to US SMG for sure at least the BR2 and BR3 gap

  5. I am sorry but what makes the OG 43 BR 4 again? If your argument is what they get from the crate then what makes the Weldgun Paratrooper BR2? The BAR they get are not BR2, the PIAT they get are not BR2, and hell the Lee Enfield Sniper they get are also not BR2, and guess what? That soviet Paratrooper in the future can bring a Panzerfaust 100 and 81mm mortar to BR1, none of this makes sense dude

  6. Funny Sten gun is BR1 while MP3008 is BR2, legit being a copy of Sten and worse than sten

In terms of Performance of Early SMG

Soviet >>>>>>>>>>> Japs >> US = German

Maybe we should pick one faction and balance the rest around it, yes that also apply for Fedorov, AVT40, Tiger II H and P47D, instead of making arbitrary changes like these:

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Ever heard of asymmetrical balance? I guess not.

That is broken, devs are aware though and hopefully it will be fixed for all paratroopers with the next major update.

And what else do the japanese have that is better than the american equipment?

BR 1 and 2 are the same in the matchmaker it does not matter.

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They don’t get a BAR, the BSA welgun paratrooper crate gives them a Bren Mk I which is BR2

It literally is

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M1 Bazooka is BR2

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The Topic is still SMG, yes I am aware a shite show that is Japs BR, BR1 and BR2 are in the same bracket, no shite so still MP3008, OVP and FANB 43 vs PPS, your point?

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So is the PIAT
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You don’t know the difference between something being “unbalanced” and asymmetrically balanced.

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BR balancing still needs lots of work, but the most relevant issues should be fixed as quickly as possible:
Give US Pershing or anything that can put up a fight against TigerII(H). I used to lol pen M4A2w76 in Berlin with Panther G, they stand no chance against a Tiger II.
Move Pps42, Pps43 to BRIII and Sten to BRII.
Add lend-leased M50 Reising, Sten and M3A1 Grease gun to Soviets because low Soviet BR is horribly empty.

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Want

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same

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Hahaha that’s actually funny, can you even believe what you just said?

Then tell me, what’s the asymetrical balance for Fedorov Automat?

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I have questions about you saying Japanese SMGS are better then American ones.

At least if we go from a purely unupgraded stat: M3A1 is better then most of the Japanese smgs past the type 100

fully upgraded: The M3A1 is better for some mid range combat while the japanese ones amazing at closer ranges unless you tap fire.

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Yes ? And where exactly does it exist in this game ?

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I never like the M3 and prefer using shotgun for the same role… so you do you

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Clearly Devs prioritiy is baking Premium paratrooper yo delete balance at once and APCs… so Good luck, considering they ignore most of the test server feedbacks and launch the merge at this shitty state

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Wait a moment, they changed that?

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I mean… then I don’t see why you are worried about SMGs if you prefer Shotguns?

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It’s always been T2.

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Because they are bad enough to make me replace them with shorguns

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Balance is “important” for the fun of the game for all players and all, but that’s just not the best idea. As is, different factions have different ups and downs. US SMG’s kinda suck, but we have arguably the best CAS in the game. German MG’s are solid and their tanks are near immortal (minus raining ordinance from the sky), but I’m sure something somewhere else is lacking. Russia gets arguably the best SMG’s, but their MG’s lack in some aspects

This is by design, I hope, and somewhat historically accurate. So no, “balancing all factions to be the same” isn’t making the game fun. It’s making it bland