Nah fuck it apply this changes i wanna see a higher skill gap and more future complains
All because developers did a mistake by doing this rifles op on the very beggining lmfao
its not the gun you use with a 9 men squad its just the additional lives you have. Why do people think the META is unfair if everone has the access to play META themselves?
Please, please consider bringing back the HE shells for the Pz. IV E/F1 in the upcoming update.
I really hope you can address this before the next update goes live. Either give the tanks a limited number of HEAT shells (for example 7–10 rounds) while bringing back some of the regular HE shells, or simply replace the current AP shells with HEAT and keep the regular HE like it was before.
The HE was an important part of what made these short-barreled Pz. IVs useful for infantry support. HEAT is great against tanks, but completely removing HE makes the tanks noticeably worse at their original role.
Whatever solution you choose, please find a way to bring regular HE back. Even a limited amount would be much better than having none. If there is still time before the upcoming update, please consider this change.
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They wanna variety
Something thag i can relate to you that these nerfs wont allow
This recoil nerf is nothing compared to the first one the meta will just become more skilled nothing else will change
Great idea. Lets make most weapons worse while keeping weapons with actual balancing issues the same so the one faction with clearly more powerful weapons can stomp the others
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To those who say that BR 5 9 Man Squads with Select Fire Riles have always been the meta for BR 5 and it is stale and boring.
I ask you this back, why is it that assaulter squad is the meta for BR 1-4? Isn’t that actually worse that SMG spam is the meta for BR 1-4? (That is majority of the time spent in the game grinding) Shouldn’t bolties/Semi Auto Rifles be able to compete against SMGs if your argument is about having variety?
This is why i rather propose reverting the recoil control on SFs to be 69% and not 60%. (Currently is 75%). And instead buff ARs to be more like the federov Avtomat. That way, ARs in BR 5 can actually compete against SFs. They will be more accurate than SFs and so much lesser recoil, but the pay off is that you deal slightly lesser DMG (still enough to 1 shot soldiers with vitality in CQB)
STG for Comparison to Fed Avtomat (Clearly such a big difference, so unfair. I’d take more recoil to be able to 1 shot in CQB. Esp having to fight against Body Armor which reduces DMG)
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Hm. I will grudgingly admit that with one of the recent leaks it has drawn my attention as a habitual rider hater.
The pasta train awaits its next arrival.
Wait, a reduction in recoil control? On the G43 DFR… that thing was already hard enough to use; are you telling me it’s even worse now? the the Breda PG either, especially since its damage falls short for BR5, why nerf very rare and unique weapons
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you can no longer use personal weapons on passenger seats of off-road vehicles except premium kubelwagen and type 95 kurogane
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Seems silly IMO plus the fact the squads aren’t bigger yet. you could argue that in lone soldiers friendly fire could be an issue but still that’s a small problem, being able to use weapons would be better than not.
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I’ve said this before, but I’ve owned two Jeep Wranglers and I have had Six full grown adults in them, so, three is laughable, four is tolerable but it could easily be set to carry six. Two up front, and four in the rear. When I had six, I also had the top on, and you can easily fit more with no top.
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It’s not about “unfair” or “I don’t have access to meta”.
I listed 3 problems in the thread I linked.
- too widespread
- BR4 oppressed
- artificial lasergun behaviour
I agree with him on this. This is why I don’t like SF rifles as they are today. Ironically, people like to assume that those of us displeased with the power gap to SF rifles are focused on the pace of BR5. For me, it’s more the fact that IRL squads would not be running around with 9 man SF squads. And some of these guns… well. I’ll leave it there. I have no problem with the pace of BR5 other than hating HE.
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I see, so you guys would want us to wait for the next battle pass to drop the “huge” update, Now would make sense if you guys would just drop a mini event cause this feels like a sandwhich with no filling in it, its bland, nothings going on except the test servers, Now would be the best time to like add a mini event to add Tech tree squads or the usual add some gun event that i`ll try to obtain but will never use
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Applying the nerf to select fire rifles also to their sniper rifle variants makes no sense.
It only serves to kill the actual fun element of these weapons which is the ability to put out accurate shots in quick succession in semi-auto. It is the recoil control that recovers the gun from recoil, the bigger the number the faster and closer to the initial position.
It is the recoil control that makes the Sniper FG42 br.5 material, not the extra 10 bullets, compared to the Gewehr 43.
I agree with the general consensus that these rifles (non-scoped) are really strong on their own, but I don’t think this is the appropriate way to go about balancing them.
A lot of the issue has to do with br.4 being constantly drawn into br.5 games where these rifles are vastly superior to their br.4 counterparts.
Therefor, a better approach to balancing them would be to change the way the matchmaker system works by separating br.5 from 4 entirely (1-2, 3-4 and 5 separate). This has been highly suggested and requested too.
I also don’t see many people complaining that the FG42 completely outclasses the STG 44.
There is also the question “if the br.5 select fire rifles are so good and you can equip nearly all soldier types with them, what are you going to equip them with otherwise if not these rifles?”.
Also these sniper versions of these weapons are not the reason behind the “select fire rifles meta”. Why are the developers not aware of this and why are they applying the nerf universally?
The issue stemmed mainly from running 9 man rifle squads and also the ability to equip the entire squad with them (specialized soldiers also) and the ability to shoot it in full auto in CQB with great control.
On the other hand, sniper squads:
- were not the reason why the weapon was overbearing
- they don’t see much play due to them being weak overall because of the lack of utility and number of soldiers (with the nerf they become even more useless)
- they can only run half the bots that a rifle squad does (4 instead of 8)
- 3 out of the 5 max. soldiers can’t even run vitality
- the scope on the rifle is a liability. On the FG42, for example, after the remodel and scope changes around 2024 the scope on it has been made into a joke of its former self. Nowadays it is literally horse blinds in CQB due to how much the newly added rubber eye cup obstructs the screen.
- you’re mostly shooting in semi-auto mode anyways for anything longer distance because past 40m the second shot doesn’t hit the target anyways due to the recoil in full auto.
- people won’t swap to sniper squads/sniper version of the rifle with the scope taken off to offset the nerf because it would only be available in the non-nerfed version to only one soldier type (sniper), of which you will only have 3 at best and they won’t have vitality nor will you have the power of the 9 man squad.
In my opinion, applying the nerf universally is unjustified and will only cause harm to a soldier type/soldier quad that is already weak on top of literally killing the fun element out of the weapon.
If in doubt test it out. You still have the live server vs the current dev server (where is it is already nerfed) for comparison.
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then play your variety nobody stops you from running 5 men or 7 men squad lol. All this crying around is just pathetic.
Honky has a point. Why are those guys never complain about vitality assaulter squads with body armor in BR1 where new players walk around with unupgraded Bolties lol. Because they abuse it themselves but cannot compete with decent players in HIgh BR lol
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This is Peak 
haha the one who abuses Grenade launchers, abuses AP Mmines and shit cries about SF 9 men squads