Rider II Class

I’ve enjoyed the TT motorcycles and the premium USSR/Japan bike squads, but I think the troopers begin to really lag behind, especially once you give them higher BR equipment, compared to TT assaulters. Having given it some thought, I thought maybe Rider II with a new higher BR class of motorcycles (BR II or BR III? idk) would be a nice idea, either as premium squads, event squads, or tech tree squads, bringing more variety to riders and a higher class that would make them more competitive in late game matches.

Germany
Sd.Kfz. 2 Kettenkrad
These charming, strange machines seem like a logical inclusion given they’re both unique and iconic.

Soviet Union
K-750 Dnieper OR PMZ-A-750
These are both venerable Soviet heavy motorcycles, the former of which saw some use in some capacity near the very end of the war, while the latter was definitely used during the war as it was produced in the 1930s. These would be provided with sidecars, using a BR-appropiate machine-gun.

Allies
Indian 741B
A beautiful classic bike with a heavier build, more torque, and iconic look. Very much a direct upgrade from the WLA.

Japan
Meguro Z97 OR Mystery Trailer Bike
Coming up with one for this was the hardest as the two already present bike squads very much do cover nearly the full extent of Japanese WW2 motorcycles. That said, the Meguro Z97 was used in limited numbers, and the other thing is based off of some pictures of US Marines posing with captured examples they seem to have repaired for their own use.

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Overall my intention is just expanding the motorcycle offerings in the game a bit and bringing in some additional bikes in the larger engine range, and the Rider II class having better stats the same way Assaulter II is better than Assaulter I, etc. Sorry for the low pixel collage, but as this is my first post, I can’t add multiple images.

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Please include a poll.
The easiest way to do it is by clicking build poll among text settings.

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while i don’t disagree with more bikes,
such bikes should be introduced as events in the future.

riders II should have jeeps, armored cars and stuff of that kind instead.

especially for:

right now, as the majority believes, riders II should be mostly about 4 wheeled ( or more ) vehicles.

as it would provide an edge against infantry, and/or usually being able to carry more troops.

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I straight up gave up on that, too much work for too little improvement, adding armoured cars and IFVs would be a far greater improvement.

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hope is the last one to die they say.

but, most of the nations jeeps are in the game though.

and would just require few tweaks and fixes :slight_smile:

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Due to being a brand new forum account, I wasn’t able to post the thread with a poll, and had to omit it unfortunately.

Jeeps and other vehicles with 4 wheels aren’t related to this topic; but if I was to throw something out there, for anyone passing by this thread to think about, maybe making jeeps like Kubelwagens, Willy’s, etc available as an addon to existing infantry squads would be a possible option?

I played Heroes and Generals for most of its existence, and in that game you played an individual soldier who could spawn in vehicles provided you unlocked them; motorcycles, trucks/APCs, and 4-wheeled jeeps. As well as some oddballs.

For Germany, I remember the Kubelwagen, 166 Schwimmwagen, Kettenkrad, and Opel Blitz. For the US it was the 1/4 Jeep, M29 Weasel, QMC 1/4 ton amphibious jeep, WLA, and CCKW truck. And for the Soviets it was the GAZ-67, T-20 artillery tractor, lend lease QMC 1/4 amphib, M72 bike, and GAZ AAA. The jeeps and trucks could be upgraded with supply crates for ammo, medkits, or panzerfausts, and the jeep could also take a mounted MG.

Anyway I don’t want to get off topic from the bikes. More content is always good, and would do a lot for those of us who are out of stuff to research, but I did mainly mean to talk about motorcycles, not jeeps :stuck_out_tongue:

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Completely agree.

Having Jeeps would be a better fit for biker II

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Agreed.

I hope we get TT Universal Carrier in the allied tech tree, it’s the best fit for the vehicle in terms of historical usage now that they got ammo boxes on them (APC usage is dumb), and the nation that actually produced them deserves to have them in greater numbers.

Let other nations keep their weird Event APC curiosities, as long as I get to see a UC in almost every battle on the Allied side I’ll be happy.

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well yes they are.

that’s what riders type II should be.

an improvement.

and as the biggest advocate for riders and bikes since day, riders 1 are fine with bikes, riders type 2 should allow more toys for what riders type 1 do, but slightly better.

being shock troops, and deliver ammo to the front.

especially for the same notion that you brought up.

for higher brs, a kettenkrad or other bikes aren’t gonna cut it.

but jeeps and other armored light vehicles, will.

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I’m not trying to argue with the wording, sorry if it came off that way.

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There could always be Rider 3s and Rider 4s, too, with APCs/IFVs at the top and better bikes at 2, and jeeps at 3 or something, I don’t know.

idk…

seems redundant and unnecessary.

they can always issue the bike as an event vehicle that can be used by the standard bike squad,

or as previously said, their own event squads ( like the apc event squads, or the soviet ptrs event bike )

RIDER V pls

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Not to brag, but I’m pretty proud of my
significant number of rider class kills . :rofl:

rider kills
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The Kettenkrad should be an APC

Lmao, how?

It has three seats.

probably the same way as Universal Carrier.

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The Kettenkrad does not fit the role as a mobile MG Nest like motorcycles so it fits into the APC family. I could see it as an event squad with only 2 soldiers and the third spot will carry one teammate and magically their whole squad as well

or maybe instead kettenkrad could be added to paratroopers, like it was originally intended.
And Universal Carrier could stop being a clown car and moved to rider category.

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Agreed.

Id be happy for some of the motorcycle suggestions to be added as foldered options for BR I but yes after that we need jeeps and associated vehicles.