Revert the plane durability buff, please

Having to dump an entire load of ammunition into the tail of a plane only to see it fly off completely fine is atrocious. We were honestly better off how we were before.

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Shooooooooot the wings :wink:.

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Having been shot in the wings and shot their wings
It does nothing.
Quickest way to down planes across all three campaigns is aiming for the cockpit/engine from what I’ve found out

Or just shoot it with a mosin :joy:

Shoot tanks (wings, as Shiivex said), engine or cockpit. It rarely takes two approaches and usually a burst is enough.
Current system is far from perfect, but it is orders of magnitude better than what we had before when planes were getting critical damage if someone sneezes next to them.

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Strange… A single burst or few 20 mm shots are more than enough to make a enemy plane spin into a deadly crash…

Shooting the main fuselage won’t get you a result

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Nah the tail section is a bullet sink
You actually have to sneak them around it into the engine/cockpit
I haven’t had luck with wings, but I’ll try next time I get on someone.

I donno. I have had exelent dogfight results. Both ways to be fair.

Its indeed better than a few weeks ago where a single shot of a rifle would destroy a plane.

I was okay with the rifles downing planes tbh because I was doing it myself lmao
I don’t think I ever had my wing snapped off by one tbh

Well, there’s mot much you can damage there to be fair. There’s control surfaces cables and that’s about it.
Given the profile of elevators and rudder, it is very unlikely your bullet or even a cannon round is going to hit them at a favourable angle when shooting from directly behind. Not impossible, but unlikely, so you’re probably not going to physically destroy those surfaces.
The rear section of the fuselage is mostly empty, apart from control surfaces cables. So you may get lucky and hit those, but again, unlikely.
This is the whole reason for why the boom-zoom tactics was invented.

The whole point is to shred the control surfaces AND cut the cables.
The simple fact that the elevators and rudder would be blown to shreds is enough

I have been saying the same thing. Its too much. before was perfect, its insanely hard to kill planes and planes were buffed too much

The thing seems to be that when components are destroyed in this game, unlike warthunder the planes dont fall apart. The component just loses functionality. If they were to add wings and tails falling off then I think it would be balanced just fine.

I remember when the OB released how silly it was that a single rifle shot through the wing would turn your plane into a beyblade. It felt like a patchwork feature to compensate for not having the full destruction model of WT.

About damage model that is in Enlisted, I just don’t get it why not just do a copy-paste model from War Thunder where it works quite fine.

I’m veteran pilot from WT with hundreds of hours in SIM battles (Enduring Confrontations) and I can say, that durability of aircrafts in Enlisted is very similar to what we can see in WT. What I suspect is the problem here, lays in ammo belts we have in Enlisted.

Since we don’t have any control over our armament for airplanes, I suppose we are using equivalent of “Default ammo belt” from WT, which even in WT is bad in most cases for shooting down planes. Playing WT I always use “Stealth ammo belt” for all fighters (except La-9), as they usually contain most number of HE shells for cannons (great for ripping off wings), and for .50 cals it’s mostly incendiary bullets (very effective in burning planes), also lack of tracers helps in surprising enemies.

When (or if) we get the possibility to change our ammunition like in War Thunder, then I think the situation will change, and with better ammo belts, shooting down planes will be easier for most players.

Regarding AA (in Enlisted), well… for me when I fly, most players just miss my plane with AA, but when they do I am most of the time going to crash, only sometimes can still fly almost like nothing happend.

hurrdurrhurr just shoot ThE WiNgS

I know you’re trying to seem condescending but you really just come off obnoxious.

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Planes need a drastic hp reduction. A well placed MG should have a better chance at taking out a plane flying too low.