Replace Jumbo already with a M4A2 (76). and no panthers are going to be needed

Well, they were released like about 300 pieces

Thats where you are wrong again pal By May 1944, T-34-85 production had reached 1,200 tanks per month. per month !!!

The T-34-85 gave the Red Army a tank with better armour and mobility than the German Panzer IV tank and StuG III assault gun. While it could not match the armour or weapons of the heavier Panther and Tiger tanks, its improved firepower made it much more effective than earlier models, and overall it was more cost-effective than the heaviest German tanks. In comparison with the T-34-85 program, the Germans instead chose an upgrade path based on the introduction of completely new, expensive, heavier, and more complex tanks, greatly slowing the growth of their tank production and aiding the Soviets in maintaining a substantial numerical superiority in tanks. In the entire war, production figures for all Panther types reached no more than 6,557, and for all Tiger types 2,027. While production figures for the T-34-85 alone reached 22,559.

your comical timing is genious sir.

how am i so if play all nations? :joy:

i figured that out.

haha. and here kid, is why you are wrong.

panther, it’s not weak, especially if we considering the war thunder version which it’s the one where take tanks from.

because the only way to pen it, it’s through the turett. and i can bet my ass off people will complain about it.
i guess it will be our time to have a laugh.

but i don’t expect you to understand.

as long people are fine, i guess that’s the reason, isn’t it? -_-

no?

exept, world war 2 is not made out of 4 campaigns that you have to put everything there.

according by the same logic of devs.

exept, what you don’t consider is that not everyone uses planes.

never thought about that uh?-

you are just stupid at this point.

first, you perhaps should really start to learn when to use the " !! " it’s just getting ridicolous on your part.

second of all, no devs actually confirmed any is-3. you are just getting ridicolous even more.

what does even mean " if you complain, no king tiger 2 ".

but the real question is, why do i even bother answering you.

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which at this point, you proves my points even more. but it’s just needless banter at this point.

evidences will speak moure louder than words.

@ReachForTheSky i guess there’s nothing to do than close it.

sorry, but you were right.

anyway, thanks.

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Well, the T34 85 can easily penetrate a tiger in frontal armor.I was referring to the modification with the d-5t pistol, there were 300 of them built in total.
Of course, the T34 was the best tank of the Second World War in terms of price-quality ratio.

As the war progressed, Germany was forced to reduce or eliminate critical alloying metals in the production of armour plate, such as nickel, tungsten and molybdenum; this resulted in lower impact resistance levels compared to earlier armour.) In 1943, Allied bombers struck and severely damaged the Knaben mine in Norway, eliminating a key source of molybdenum; supplies from Finland and Japan were also cut off. The loss of molybdenum, and its replacement with other substitutes to maintain hardness, as well as a general loss of quality control, resulted in an increased brittleness in German armour plate, which developed a tendency to fracture when struck with a shell. Testing by U.S. Army officers in August 1944 in Isigny, France showed catastrophic cracking of the armour plate on two out of three Panthers examined

Panther crews were also aware of the weak side armour and made augmentations by hanging track links or spare roadwheels onto the turret and/or the hull sides.The rear hull top armour was only 16 mm (0.63 in) thick, and had two radiator fans and four air intake louvres over the engine compartment that were vulnerable to strafing by aircraft. Allied tank crews also wore aware of this and id a trick of shooting the HE shell on top of the panther setting the engine on fire and knocking out the crew in turret !

Right, aviation does not require special skills,but it destroys all living things and jumbo and Sherman and infantry and any other evil , 1500 kg of bomb load from Junkers generally destroy all living things.

And this is really the main question in general, because the question of jumbo is a question of faith.
Because I don’t understand how you can complain about jumbo when he himself can’t break through the pz 4?

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alll beatifull things that are not implied in a game.

don’t know if you know about this,

but it is a thing. like, they don’t do that as it’s not relevant.

( otherwise transmitions will broke after a few meters, or engine will burn out for overstretching, whic thankfully does not happen )

which in gameplay terms this means, they are worried about their angled side armor, and turett.

those are the only weakspots that any m5s or any m8s will never be able to pen.

but if people likes to stop newbies and make them leave by disliking this game and actually tells their friends to not play it, than go for it.

i’m sure this will bring benefict for everyone when the population will lower even more.

Jumbo is not the main problem of leaving players,there are a thousand and one problems more terrible than jumbo.

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Do you have any problems with quoting or what?Because otherwise this nonsense can not be explained.

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reminds me the famous eppisode of moscow where everyone asked for kv1 and kv2s or even t34s over moscow.

yet we have seen none.

i wonder why uh?

well, let me answer this for you,

simply, the other faction lacks of counter parts ( historically speaking ).

and since time travelers aren’t a thing ( well, yes, but actually not that much ) they ain’t coming anytime soon, unless you wan’t to kill moscow as well at the point where it’s going to be mainly PVE and no sight of actual german players.

so according to your logic, only allies have to get shiny toys and get to play with it.

good idea of balance!.

i’m sure you are loved by everyone.

guess what!!!.

when i usually play i don’t see alot of planes!!! oh no!!!.

yeah, i don’t use it, because guess what, i have other class to increase veterancy soldiers.

and i’m not going to pay for slots.

which it’s the reason why limitations exists. don’t they?.

which will get us back to the original point.

are you trying to imply something? as far as i can tell you are not making actual valid points.

exept i’m calling you stupid because you didn’t even readed half of the post and just came here blasting idiocy.

that’s the main reason.

because what you seems not understanding it’s the averange engagement between a fucking pz iv, and a jumbo.

but you are like the other few, where lacks of understand and still refuses to understand.

can’t say much than i don’t know what tell you.

if you want to avoid evidence and keeps thinking in your own ignorance i can’t, and will not do much about it.

exept, that one does not confirm it!!!

crazy, right?!!

which to answer your questionable question,

i don’t recall any jumbo users that needs CAS to take out their opponents, do they?

nor the soviet.

so i don’t see why the germans should.

Ok guys, this discussion has been ongoing for a long time, and I think all of the points that can be made have been made.

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