I am also 100% OK with removing the extra health perk as well. In my opinion it has no place in a game like this, and also reduces both the realism and quality of gameplay/balance.
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My words exactly.
I´m failing to find any kind of reasonable justification for that perks very existence.
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That is not a problem though 
That is actually preferred for the drastic majority of players
Just these two changes alone would drastically improve the skill required to play the game,
mostly remove the P2W aspects of the premium soldiers (health perk being the hardest to obtain yet most OP perk in the game),
make the game more active (+movement speed or -recoil are “active” perks that you must use, while +health is a passive perk that your enemy interact with, and on top of that, having less health makes you more likely to push harder / play more aggressively as you cannot take it easy and tank a shot)
and more consistent (no moments where your gun suddenly killing on an arm shot due to having more damage, or not killing on an upper torso shot due to health perk)
I agree, but I see it as a problem for our godly snail known for embracing and monetizing bs like that.
Also, imagine the mess if weapon damage upgrades will be gone completely but health perks will remain…For that reason, It must be pointed out that both health perk and damage upgrade must be removed at the same time.
Another reason why I used the word “problem” is the fact, that it has been a while since CBT was released and since then not a single developer post was dedicated to the issue, despite it having pretty much top priority over time. More than that, all that happened was, that this issue was even expanded by making upgrade system more draconic.
I just hope that devs remember what they said: 
Because if they don’t make a large-scale military simulator, as they said, I’ll be very sad… 
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Personally I would like to see overhaul of current upgrade system. Now we have system “buy this or die” because things like +20% rof or -15% recoil are must have (unless you are a masochist).
I would like to have upgrade system that gives also some negatives. If I have more rof than I have more recoil, this is logical and balanced.
It would also allow players to customise their weapons more because it would allow to choose what they want from their weapons: accuracy, rof or sth else.
Of course the way you obtain upgrades must change. It will kill the game in it’s current state.
I would make it as a part of ammo management system I described here: Leftover ammunition
Giving explosive ammo as standard ammo type is overkill in my opinion.
There never were explosive bullets for the calibers used in rifles here. Only incendiary, but those were only used in planes so not really relevant here.
We should never get more damage as an upgrade, though, unless the gun can already oneshot on upper torso and the upgrade allows you to oneshot on lower torso too (so +5% damage on bolt actions only or something) while also having significant downsides, similar to the system in H&G
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I’ve heard snipers did sometimes use HE ammo that was meant to be used by planes. I don’t know if that’s true but because @6610771 mentioned it I wrote what I think about it being in game.
As you wrote extra dmg wouldn’t change much so I would suggest longer effective range instead.
Sth simmilar but not copied 1:1.
That’s be incendiary. Unless it’s 20mm
No they genuinely had explosive rounds for snipers. Both the Soviets and the Germans. Hell Simo got hit by one in the face during the Winter War.
I’m looking for sources now, I’ll update with it if I find a genuine one that isn’t just some shitty blog or forum without proofs.
There we go.
Ah, those. I forgot about those
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All weapons should have upgrade removed and deal their max damage as soon as unlocked
This way, bolt action rifles won’t need more than one shot to kill and SMG’s when having 6.8 (germans) and 6.6 (soviets) damage, don’t feel like nail guns
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I don’t want explosive ammo in Enlisted
It was used too rarely to be the standard ammo in Enlisted
Also, as the video had shown german explosive ammo doesn’t really work in all occasions so I don’t think we should ever see this in Enlisted
why @ me twice while I never said I wanted them either xd
In my opinion it could be a special ammo. Mostly as some kind of an easter egg but may also have some benefits.
If you mean a rare Easter egg that gives you this ammo once in every 20 battles than yeah, why not
Because you were arguing with him and I wanted to answer to both of you my opinion
No, you can have for example 2 explosive bullets and you can’t resuply. It will insta kill whoever gets shot and may also wound another soldier if they were hugging. May be good at destroying / damaging equipment like MG nests.
It’s main purpose would be satisfaction of the shooter. Nothing groundbreaking.
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if they functioned like rifle grenades, then maybe. But at that point why not just stick to rifle grenades?
No. Explosive charge is incomparable. Maybe ability to wound soldiers close to explosion but nothing more.
(I haven’t used them so I’ll asume how they work.)
a) you have much greater range when firing a bullet,
b) you are harder to spot,
c) you may be maniak that just wants to use explosive bullets and spread fear among the enemies (I do it with stuka. My combat effectiveness is just above 0 but it’s fun.)