At least this APC can carry troops. The 37mm gun-equipped Sd.Kfz. 251 currently stuck in the editor will also be an APC in the future. As for the variant fitted with the long 75mm cannon, I hope it gets added as a tank destroyer at BR 2.
It was a horrible mistake the devs made it an APC in the first place. I assume they did it out of laziness without caring about history. If they don’t learn from their mistake they’ll make the M3 GMC and many others APCs too!
No, it shouldn’t be an APC! I already said only the original Sd.Kfz.251 was used as an APC, ifs variants were used as support vehicles!
Don’t you think that would be pointless? No one would bother using it even if it’s moved to BR1, since it’s inferior to the Panzer III E.
1 Like
The same thing can be said for tons of vehicles. You have to look at it from two points, for history, and for variety.
Historically these vehicles were not APCs so they should be properly represented.
Second, there are so many vehicles from WW2 that should be in game. Frankly I want all of them! Many of them may seem pointless, but we can’t just exclude any vehicle that isn’t a Tiger 2 or a Meta vehicle otherwise we might as well say don’t bother adding in anymore vehicles because we already got the best stuff. Maybe some people just particularly like a certain vehicle so they play as it anyway.
Me personally I make my loadouts chronologically and I choose my units randomly. My classes and vehicle types (light tank, medium tank, heavy tank, artillery, tank destroyer, AA, flamethrower). So I certainly don’t mind having another artillery vehicle for 1943. I maximize history and variety.
Sometimes I use a Marder 3, sometimes I use a Marder 3 H, because I just feel like it.
You can hope they add a historical mode that restricts weapons by year. Historical photos show trucks carrying as many as thirty extra US soldiers riding on top, and regular jeeps sometimes held thirteen people. This vehicle is only armed with a 37mm cannon. After accounting for ammunition and its six crew members, it could definitely fit a large group of troops.
A historical mode sounds cool, but I don’t necessarily want that. I just have my own personal rules for immersion. I don’t care if you have a Tiger 2 in Stalingrad, all I care is that my loadout is good for the year 1942 if I get Stalingrad
Yes soldiers will cram themselves onto anything for a ride, but we have to look at designated roles otherwise they might as well make every vehicle including tanks APCs. The fact is these special half-tracks were not APCs, the original model was but it’s variants were used as support vehicles
On another note jeeps should be Rider 2 that gives them a few extra soldiers
For better or worse it is still a support vehicle (like a tank), not an APC.
Alright. I can only say this vehicle is a pretty rare market-exclusive ride in War Thunder. Its battle rating is low enough that it can face opponents you’d never run into in the Panzer III E. Right now though, the BR spread across the ground forces tree is far too cramped. We need to introduce BR 6 to split up BR 5, and rebalance BR 2 and BR 4. That way we can carve out a proper place for this vehicle.
I do think eventually we may need a BR 6. There are certainly some late war prototypes that I think eventually will be in game that might be a bit too much for BR 5
1 Like
That’s for sure. Vehicles like the KV-85 and VK 30.02 perform poorly at both BR 3 and BR 4. We need a dedicated bracket for 5.0 vehicles.
no, add equivalents like su57 and m3mgc
Yes but those vehicles are “tanks” (combat vehicles) not APCs
I already want them to correct this mistake, we shouldn’t add more mistakes
Got it. I agree that the following four should be classified as tank vehicles, since they can’t carry extra infantry.
1 Like
Exactly, the original half-tracks were APCs designed to carry an entire infantry squad of about 10 men.
They thought it was a good idea to modify half-tracks to fulfill different roles to support infantry like anti-air, tank destroyers, etc. They were no longer APCs.
In this game the “tank” slot is just any combat vehicle that is designed to support the soldiers. There’s no point in needlessly dividing vehicles. What is the point of a Stug being in one slot, a Marder 3 being in one slot, a Sd. kfz.251/22 in one slot, and a Sd.Kdz.234/4 in some other slot if they all have the same exact gun and the only difference is one is built on a medium tank chassis, the other a light tank chassis, the other a halftrack, and the other an armored car. That’s why I say just spawn as whatever vehicle and do your job to support the infantry.
1 Like