Please consider rebalancing Mortars and adding 80mm Mortars to remaining nations

Almost a year ago I made 2 posts asking for a complete rebalancing of the mortars in game as well as the addition of the remaining 80mm mortars to the rest of the TT, this was done before polls so I’ll make my case once again, maybe now with everyone’s support we’ll be able to finally get them were they belong and have all nations with their respective 80mm counterparts.

Well firstly lets talk about bloatware. To put it bluntly, the USSR does not need 2 of the almost exact same mortars on the TT, I’m the first guy that comes in defense of variety and all, but having 2 of the (almost) exact same thing and worse of all, not foldered and 1 Br higher, also, it’s not like the RM-38 was the main mortar for the USSR, IIRC it was fairly quickly phased out for the cheaper RM-40, so like, why? Please, either remove the RM-38 or just folder the RM-40 with it so that new players don’t have to research a whole new thing on the “Equipment” side of the TT. Please

How should the RM-38/40 situation be handled?

  • Remove the RM-38 from the TT and move the RM-40 to BR I
  • Folder the RM-40 under the RM-38 and keep the RM-40 in BR II
  • Don’t do anything and have new players research 2 of the (almost) exact same equipment
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Now, for the rest of the mortars, it’s just EGREGIOUS that the US’ M2 60mm Mortar is at BR IV, like it just has minimal stat improvements if at all over the Tow-inch Mortar and yet it’s 2 whole BR brackets over it and it has (as far as I know) NO AT capabilities, so again, why? This is the whole RM-38/40 situation only several orders of magnitude worse.


M2 Mortar, 60mm yet BR IV, yisus craist, please make it make sense


Two-inch Mortar, 50mm BR I


Granatwerfer 36, 50mm BR I


Type 89 Mortar, 50mm BR I

How should the M2 situation be handled?

  • Move the M2 Mortar to BR I and folder the Two-inch Mortar under it
  • Move the M2 Mortar to BR II and folder the Two-inch Mortar under it
  • Move the M2 Mortar to BR III and improve its capabilities (Somehow)
  • Don’t move the M2 Mortar (For some reason that I hope you explain down in the comments)
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Now, for the 80mm mortars in game currently, I personally feel like they are WAY overtiered at BR V, I get and understand that they do have some AT capabilities and all, and no-one wants to increase explosive spam, but really? BR V? In what universe are they comparable to a Tiger II or a T 20 rifle? Also, be honest here, aside from like once in a blue moon, when has anyone used mortars so much that it has affected a match, like really, I’m currently over 1.5k hours in this game already and if I’ve been killed like 10 times by mortars in that time I’m rounding up. So, really I think that they should be at BR III or IV AT MAX and I’m being suuuper generous here, no real reason to use them at BR V as any arty strike is far better and their AT capabilities are suuuper situational at best.

So, how would you like the 80mm mortar situation to be handled?

  • Move the 80mm mortars down to BR III (And maybe rebalance their ammo or something else)
  • Meet halfway and place them at BR IV (Not really what I’d like but it’s better than nothing)
  • Just keep them at BR V (Something, something explosive spam)
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And finally, for the wishywashy part of my rant, the remaining 80mm mortars.

I feel like excluding both the US and IJA from having 80mm mortars its not just unfair but also missing a very good opportunity to expand those TT in more ways than just adding prototypes or super sweat guns/vehicles. While also rounding the few remaining parts of some of these TTs also both nations, as were all back then and still right now, relying heavily on mortars for their advancements and defenses.

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Type 97 81mm Infantry Mortar (IJA)


M1 Mortar (US)

Would you like to see the addition of 80mm mortars for both of these TTs?

  • Yes, add 80mm for both nations missing them
  • Add 80mm mortars to only one of them (Because you’re evil)
  • Don’t add any new 80mm mortars (You just don’t like the US and Japan having more boom)
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And as always, a wish for variety and historical accuracy, 80mm mortars for the sub-TTs, I think that adding 80mm mortars for both the UK and Italy TTs would make for some variety for people that want to make themed squads and what not and maybe even open the door for having Mortarmen II squads added and all. Of course these would be foldered under the main TT equivalents as NO-ONE wants more bloatware for the TTs

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ML 3-inch Mortar (UK)

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81/14 Model 35 Mortar (Italy)

Would you like to see 80mm mortars for the 2 sub-factions?

  • Add both 80mm mortars to the sub-TTs but have them foldered
  • Add both 80mm mortarts to the sub-TTs but unfoldered (For some nefarious reason)
  • Don’t add any more 80mm mortars (They don’t deserve it, they know what they did)
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And as always, thank you for reading this whole thing, I hope you like it and maybe the devs take my Mortar posts in consideration and we see some changes to one of the, if not the 2nd, most sidelined classes in the whole game (I’m looking at you rider class).

See you in the comments!

Leave mortars and snipers to rot.

Incentivize passive playstyles that aren’t beneficial to the team whatsoever.

Definitely don’t waste time modeling new 80mm mortars… they are a gimmick as they stand and are only effective if the enemy tanker is braindead… and or to get direct hits on marks.

However with extreme bias… i wouldn’t mind if Italy or Britain got their mortars… which same treatment should be done with everything else like that.