Planes & Kills - Need a Fix

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A bit of Context:

i hope that the title is not misleading, and before you’ll start commeting with " planes OP / planes Br0k3n " no, i’m not here to suggest that, but insthead, to rework the whole plane’s kills system.

being a pilot in this game is somewhat rewarding but at the same time, it’s really frustrating because of some people.
but mostly, the game allowing them to do so.

Current Issue:

ok, so the current issues are, whenever you shot down a plane, on my experiences most of the time ends up with 3 scenarios:

  1. if you shoot a plane, and this one end in the sea, the game consider that the pilot of that plane that i shotted down, crashed on his own.

not getting my rewards

  1. whenever i shoot down a plane, i just get the kill of the plane but not the pilot, because:
    A killed him self through the ESC option/menu
    B jumped out of the plane and taking fall damage gets accounted to suicide.

and lastly,

  1. i shoot a plane, and i got both kill of the pilot and the plane ( as it should )

( the somewhat, rare one )

My suggestion for the issue:

first of all, REMOVE the option for pilots to kill them selves, or if they kill them selves, make the kill accounted to the last person or bot who dealt the last damage to them.

the same it could be applied when they eject their selves out of the plane.

after all, war thunder has the some sort of system where if you kill your self, or die, the kill get accounted to the last guy.

hope this post can make sense.

cheers.

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Disagree, when you’re in a high altitude dogfight, I don’t want to sit there for 20 - 30 seconds while the plane is in a flat spin and there’s nothing I can do to contribute to the match.

Just because the games have the same publisher, doesn’t mean the developers have to share the details -_-

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At that moment, when you decide to kill yourself the kill should be credited to the last one to shoot you/the one who damaged you the most

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That’s the punishment that you should get for the lack of skills?

I mean, we all don’t like watching our character slowly die.
But you know what to do next time.

Just like in a tank where your members keep die and die, I dont see where’s the problem of spinning in a matter of few seconds.

But you didn’t get the main point.
There fore there should be no “ easy way out “ without giving credit to those that actually putted effort and bullets in the enemy.

Same thing happens with the AA.
And it should be stopped.

Yes it does?

Where do you think vehicle, aircrafts, artillery system, and others similar system came from?

I mean, it’s not obliged, but it should be its basic as much more complex system has been made from scratch

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But then, at the same time, should people be credited with a kill if they cause the smallest about of damage but because of the jankyass flight mechanics, cause the plane to be unflyable?

Lack of skills?
Lol what? So you’re saying that getting pounced on by a much superior and manoeuvrable aircraft and getting destroyed constitutes as ‘lack of skills’ when a game with such poor render distance means enemy aircraft are incredibly hard to see?

Suicide is as such, i don’t think that if the pilot takes the easy way out, then there should be a kill awarded. So if I did a strafing run and someone say, took a pot shot and hit the plane with a pistol, I then Suicide because I’m bored/ not effective enough that they should get a kill out of it?

I think it’s fine as is, what are people going to do when/ if they add in parachutes? Complain that the pilot shouldn’t be able to escape?

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Yes.

Quite straight foward.
Otherwise, you would not have picked up the airplane, if you don’t like it, or don’t know how to use it.

No exscuses as you have a prati e modes with live tanks.

Nope

I’m sorry for my lack of proper words.

Can’t say much here as there are issues with the management of air forces.
On Moscow, you can get access to 1 plane, and 1 bomber active at the same time.

While on Normandy, only 1 fighter OR bomber.

Yes. He should get awarded.

I don’t understand, it can be so difficult for you to understand.

I’m not here to tell you what to do, or not do. But if you take a plane, or a tank its because you are willing to use it, and put it in action in order to help your team, or fulfill your tasks. No one else is forcing you to use them if you end up being bored.

And when someone shoot you down, with AA, mgs, tanks, other planes, or even a pistol, they have all the rights to take the credit. As a reward because again, they putted time in shooting you, when they could have done something else.

They get killed by boundary limits. That’s it.
Quite straight foward.

And it’s going to be a problem of than, not now.

Which I’ll tell you, a leave feature where you don’t get killed but you just get putted back to the spawn screen and its done.

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I also disagree with everything. Let the player choose to suicide…

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Yes, like, what does the dude who kills himself care about who his kill is credited to, it’s not like they take points away from you

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