With the current size of maps Planes don’t really have a place, the map is the size of a postage stamp and it is very difficult to engage a plane before it drops ordinance with a fighter due to the view distance limitations. Planes honestly have no place on a map as small as the ones in game.
Then we have the ordinance the 250kg bombs have a massive kill radius, it is not uncommon to get 10+ kills every bomb, as well as being able to easily kill tanks.
Infantry have relatively few options against planes, you can get an odd shot with an infantry weapon, but later planes can keep flying with little bits of damage here and there.
The AAA in game is bad at taking out planes because of how slow it turns and only having 10 shots before needing to reload, so if you don’t kill the plane with those 10 shots you will probably eat a bomb and die.
Honestly planes would be better serviced as a call in like the arty, or limited to larger scale maps where you don’t have 20+ bodies all shoved into a tiny area.
Alternatively limit ordinance by map instead of by plane so you don’t have something like a 250 kg bomb on a single point attack/defend map.
Since planes don’t deal friendly fire on a single point map they can bomb the points to death with no risk of harming friendlies which is absurd.
Many of these issues also apply to mortars, Mortars are in the same boat of they are too safe and don’t have friendly fire.
With their range mortars can also sit in a safe area outside the map bounds in many cases and just spam fire, they should also be reserved for larger maps where the play area actually incorporates an area they have to be in bounds for both teams to attack objectives.
For all the hate planes get, the truth is they are just an annoying mosquito. Sure they may get some big bomb drops, from time to time, but a machine gun squad will wipe out alot more than that.
If planes are getting the most kills in your game, the ground troops really aren’t being combat effective, in which case you have bigger problems
No one here said anything about them being top of the score board though?
Top score board doesn’t really mean much in terms of winning the game.
Planes can effectively halt pushes alone, especially the ones with lots of bombs or larger bombs.
And that is far more valuable then being top score board.
I brought up kills sure, but killing 20 people out of a push and any vics in a push easily is a problem and will win the other team the game easily.
And if you are killing pilots with a sniper rifle I am impressed, between the speeds they are moving, the bullet drop, and the weapons accuracy at long range.
But most people can’t do that and pretending that they can is disingenuous.
Small arms to the plane don’t do that much outside the biplanes, they can survive a lot of punishment.
That is not the case at all. So far I’ve killed many planes with mg13. The biplanes where actually more difficult to kill as engine block protects them really well. Couple of planes where shot just with regular kar98k, bots shot down planes on their own too. 3 planes where killed by mortar
All you have to do is lead a shot way more in comparison to shooting infantry. Btw, shooting plane down with rifles/mg is easier than with AAA, which slow turn makes it difficult to follow the target of it starts to maneuver. But you get a lead indicator which makes it much easier to shoot than using personal weapons.
Empirical evidence disagrees with your assertions of this being ‘easier than with AAA’ if it was easy for infantry to shoot down planes you would see a lot more posting about it, and you would see a lot more planes in games be killed by small arms fire.
It is possible you are shooting a damaged plane and getting credited with the kill because you got the last hit.
Because if you get the last hit with a k98 you get the kill with the k98.
But having flown the Yak, and flown against the 109 I can tell you, you did not shoot it down with a k98, they can take a ridiculous amount of punishment, you likely just got the last hit on a dying plane.
Really i don’t see in what point you want to come (maybe my bad i didn’t understand well hat you say, english is not my main language).
But as you can see on the screen i have 0 dead, the 102 kills are only in the a20g.
all I’m saying is, anything a plane can do, can be done as well and better on the ground. With the added bonus planes don’t have the option of capping the objective. Not dying doesn’t mean anything really (except that you were ignored)
Unless a plane is bombing tanks (the most useful thing a plane can do), its just farming kills, which will only set the player back the 5 seconds it takes to respawn, and if they are defenders on invasion it means very little.
Planes are fine, when your hostile would set up some aaa they would make way less dmg. But the most players dont use aaa and let them fly the whole round.
Any Mortar can easy sniped bombed or counter mortared…
So yes they can do a lot of kills.
But they are not OP.
I tried this game, enjoyed it, till I came across a map with planes. I like playing as infantry if I wanted planes I’d play war thunder, I hope they are removed, currently they are just ruining the game. nobody ever finds it fun playing as infantry when someone is unkillable and bombing entire squads on repeat
