Probably pointless as most of the dev work has been done already but maybe the next time DF want to waste their time of pointless stuff the team leads might hopefully ask themself if it is really needed or fit into the game.
But then again that would mean they would need to player their own game, so that they could get feel for what enlisted actually is.
My understanding is that they’ll be event rewards for a event launche immediately upon the release of the update… All they’d have to do, is not host the event…
YES!!! This thing is sooo stupid!!! Instead just like give us an Event Guerrilla Squad for some nations!!! I’m dying to see Germans in American uniforms for battle of the bulge!
This was my same thinking that is why I think they need to increase the match sizes
who approved this class even what a bad idea
are there no true devs left among gaijin? that can say no to a bad idea? lol.
One thing most don’t consider is this class would make Lonefigher mode complete hell. Squad mode might be the main mode for the game, but Lonefigher still has a decent amount of Enlisted’s playerbase playing it.
And not even bothering with Hardcore Lonefigher, that mode might as well be buried if this class goes through.
I just don’t uderstand why they didn’t add Rider IIs to the game that everyone wants…jeeps are already on the battlefield, they just need a MG added.
These Saboteur’s are going to make it confusing and weaken game play…people already have a hard enough time playing the objective or building rallies.
Well, here’s how I see it, they will spawn with regular uniforms - move behind enemy lines, kill an enemy and steal their uniform
If a player actually even manages to do that - well what ever let him have fun trolling the enemy for a few kills. unless that player is actually going full larp mode really pretending to be part of the enemy team to take out rallies there is no way this class is gonna have a big impact on the game, but even walking across the battlefield alone is a massive task and most will die trying.
Again its just one soldier.
Yeah the uniform mechanic should 100% be deactivated for lone fighter.
At first I disliked this class but have thought about it and can welcome it. But it is very controversial. The only bright side is that at the very least it is just for a little event and thus won’t be in game for some time. It can be shelved for now
We could add more pertinent classes, like Grenadier or I have other cool ideas like
My main issue is that this class entierly fails to fit in to what Enlisted is supposed to be.
What is Enlisted…?
It’s a Fast-Paced WW2 Squad-Based Combined-Arms Shooter.
Not at all…
This class, as described, would be low-impact upon gameplay, have zero of the combat staying power of other classes (even guerillas are five men squads armed with SMGs, not insignificant, especially in mid-BRs).
This is a class that requires, as Batman enthusiasts will recognise, setup time. By the time you’re in position to provid unique combat intelligence (by observing the enemy from within their area), the point has usually been contested, without your presence.
What value are you for the team as a lone fighter…? None, even guerillas provide emergency Assaulter fire-power in a pinch, this class would have one low value function, and one low-value function only.
Planes are the ultimate spotters, anyway. Frankly, that label is not undeserved, historically speaking.
Not great. Perfidy, specifically the use of enemy uniforms during combat operations, was a recognized warcrime by almost everyone at the time.
What we have are mostly partisans (especially Soviet ones) sometimes doing this. The regular forces, of any country, would almost never do this.
The one major example people bring up of this being done is certain units under Otto Skorzeny during the Battle of the Bulge.
This is not the “big win” some think it is. Skorzeny himself was later tried at the Dachau trials but acquitted because the court accepted that wearing enemy uniforms for infiltration alone was not illegal if combat was conducted in proper uniform. The German troops during the Battle of the Bulge that did fight using US uniforms were few, vastly outnumbered by the other infiltrators, and they did so on their own initiative and without orders to do so.
Everyone used foreign uniforms for infiltration, intelligence gathering, or covert escape. Everyone also agreed that using them to fight was wrong. The current Saboteur class, explicitly meant to be used to decieve the enemy before ambushing them, entierly fails to represent historical reality.
Horribly.
A lone man is not a “squad”. Enlisted is not a Hero-Shooter, the gameplay loop - certainly the ground warfare part - should revolve around it’s squad based nature.
It is what seperates it from most other shooters out there, even ones based in WW2.
This is the only metric where the class makes any ammount of sense…
The idea of covert intelligence, on its own, is appealing. Directing friendly airpower and tank/AT fire support is certainly a interesting aspect.
However, no single class should be the “designated spotter”. To truly represent Combined-Arms warfare, everyone should be cooperating in the locating and extraction or enemy forces.
So, in the end, this class fails once more, as it’s ultimately supurflous with the intended goal and design of the game.
Just for fun…
It has a gun. 
We can use this as a knight ii
Unpopular opinion.
Class is… Not that bad.
While I agree with most points, else a bit exagerated.
I mean, truth be told, most wouldnt really care about the “ implications “.
It would be just like x or y equipment where shouldn’t be,
Due to being a game, its fine.
With that being said, the class is slowly growing on me, but, its out of place because it would belong more for a dedicated pve type of cooperation game, rather than a frontline based game. Rather, a dedicated gamemode to it.
Even if guerillas in their absurdity do what they do, sabuteours wouldnt be on the front Lines period.
Similar to “ death to spies “ type of game.
Which again, sort of cool, but not for enlisted in What it is.
Currently anyway, it can provide some interesting game play isolated on its own without being a detriment to anyone else.
And my biggest gripe. Should have been among the last classes to be implemented.
When we still have to rework current ones.
Such as the much more highly demandar jeeps, armored vehicles, maybe dedicated logistic for supplies on the battlefield with ammo and medkits, etc.
And worse yet, reacon abilities being locked behind one class.
And its the wrong one.
didnt know 120 people were still on the forum.
Are you really going to bring up the fact that it’s a war crime… seriously? this is a video game…
And the SS doesn’t have uniforms either. There’s many things the developers avoid because that’s not something you want connected with your game
Pz 3 m squad is hitler youth… dicker max 6th army is a squad with a terrible background… let alone the moroccan gourmiers which were infamous.
Also… they do have their uniforms… SS camouflage… sure they might not have the black trench coats they are infamous for.
