P-47d OP

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sadly this is the day that im calling something OP.

the p47 is the best attacker/fighter in the whole game

10x HVAR rockets, they are slightly worse than thewfr.gr 21 but the number compensate.

1x 500 lb bomb, why it even has a bomb its a fighter.

high manuvrabilty and great fire power with the 8x 50 cal, and with the bugged fw190 its has virtually no counter.

imo this plane needs a reduction of at least 4 rocket and the bomb, i undesrtand that this loadout its realistic but its not balanced.

on of the loadouts is 6x m8 rockets, they could use them instead of hvar
https://wiki.warthunder.com/P-47D-28

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the other German fighters do not exist? moreover it is not true that is op, it has a very bad agility its only advantage is the rockets, the bomb it has does not do much damage, and is inferior in ground air support to the p38j-15 much more agile and with an equal number of rockets

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I would consider the bf110 more powerful than thunderbolt because it gets 2 pair of 21cm rockets and guns that are damn good for CAS all at lvl 4

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So is panther. Asymmetric balance, although i would get rid of 2 rockets if i had the option. I agree german fighters should have realistic damage models to counter it as well

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im seeing the whole scheme not only p47 vs this plane

has the best agilty in the attacker slot its inferior to other fighters (as it should be) but a good pilot has no problems to shoot down a couple of noobs in a plane (and if you dont have premium, you havent a slot free for a fighter most ppl will bring tank/attacker)

his whole armament is supeior to the average of all planes for being an hybrid.

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the problem is that the bf110 is cas it cant do much else, you could try to shoot down other planes but lost time and xp.

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this Asymmetric balance is bringing only more malcontent

first jumbo vs pzIV and fg42 vs m2 carabine, now panther vs jumbo and p47 vs everything else i find it a stupid method

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I think asymmetric balance is fine as it encourages counterplay and makes factions feel different but it doesn’t work currently because the full trees aren’t in the game yet. Also some of the choices the make are questionable like the tanks you mentioned and the current top tiers.

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P47 needs buffed to actually use all 10 machine guns :smiling_imp:

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and you see the scheme wrong, the p47 as a hybrid does not excel neither as a fighter plane nor as a cas, the p38j-15 (fighter) unlocked before him excels both as a fighter and cas compared to the p47, explain to me where it would be op, if even a nob with the first plane can safely shoot him down
and don’t use premium as an excuse to say it’s op because it’s ridiculous, things compare objectively not in the way that suits you most

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quit whining learn to play that’s the advice i get

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is i was saying most people that dont have premium will NOT pick a fighter instead of a CAS bc its simply not profitable, and it’s not that simple dealing with an overpicked plane that can do all having a superior armament.

idk i didnt even see once this plane in the air nor i use it, i dont have time to test if this plane is as good as the p47.

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tecnically yes but its not really a problem of skillz, but the overperformance of the plane.

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so you dont test all planes personally to actually see how they work, you have at least used the p47?

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i’ve used all apart for that plane, before the cas nerf the a20 dominate, after the nerf 've usued a bit of p47.

after a couple of days from the cas nerf i’ve switched to germany

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u mean like fg42 panther mg34 mg 42 over performance the germans have more overperformance than any one else in game so get over it

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fg42 its extremely good but not that good for calling it OP, the need to give counter to the americans like the bar (for all the infantry obviously).

mg34 and 42 i’ve actually switched them for assaulter squads, now they can only be used prone, hip firing from really close, at this point instead of an mg i use a normal smg.

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Trying to shoot down planes tend to be a waste ok general so it’s not losing out as much, also level 4 unlock for something so strong

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let me understand, you used it a month and a half ago just a little bit, and now you come out saying that the p47 is op, you realize that yours is not an objective criticism since for the most part now you are playing with Germans, this topic makes no sense it sounds like a complaint from german main

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thats bullshit the fg42 is a god weapon and coupled with the health perk u have a super trooper with a god gun yea thats not overperforming

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