Not every tech tree needs 5 tiers

It occurred to me when I saw how hard Darkflow is trying to push the Japanese into the 5th tier in the new update. Not every faction needs all 5 tiers, and if the point of the merge was to allow further expansion of the game by introducing more theaters and factions, we’ll get to the point where there we can’t have tier 5 for every faction. Unless we want for example the French “top tier” to look like this :point_down:.



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If Darkflow wants to add factions like France, Poland, Finland, and eventually separate the Italian and British/Commonwealth trees, they need to accept that not every tech tree can have or even needs five tiers, select fire rifles and heavy tanks.

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the problem is that the japanese face tier 5 with their tier 4 weapons wich is incredibly unbalanced and leaves no reason to play japan at all

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Do they though? I haven’t seen a single M2 Carbine in Pacific after the merge, the only unbalanced weapon/vehicle in Pacific is the Jumbo. From what I know tier 5 Allies can play only Normandy.

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nope the mod have confirm this with me before but br4 US of course can appear in pacific sometime since they are 50/50 chance

Oh, so it’s 50/50 for tier 4, didn’t know that. But tier 5 can’t appear in Pacific at all, right?

No it cannot.

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I wouldn’t mind getting future factions like France or China that don’t go beyond mid range in tiers. As for Japan though, I think that ship has sailed.

I believe that technology trees with level limitations are inevitable in the future, for example Poland after 39 would only be a reskin of Russian and English material, France is also almost in the same boat and I don’t want to think for example with Belgium, Holland, Romania or Finland which could at most reach level 3

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Exactly, once they get that one tank destroyer with paper Armour in T5 and the Tokyo typewriter, they’ll get put against jumbos, which they already face, but even more often, and now Pershings and super Pershings, and there AT capabilities are already terrible from the Sherman onwards, how will they deal with jumbos and Pershings

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If Poland ever appears in the game (which I somehow doubt considering that we didn’t get invaded just by Germany), it should definitely not extend past the September campaign. The only post-1939 part of Polish WW2 involvement that could be added is the Warsaw Uprising of 1944, but that’s definitely not happening for multiple reasons.

The problem I see with these “incomplete” tech trees however is that some of their weapons are way higher tier than the other ones. I’ll give Poland as an example, because that’s what I know a more about (I’m Polish) and because a lot of weapons Poland used are already in the game. If Poland was added, its tree for different weapon branches would end at:

  • tier III for rifles, with the wz. 38M semi-auto rifle
  • tier III for MGs, with the wz. 28 LMG and the Lewis Gun
  • tier I for AT weapons, with the wz. 35 AT rifle
  • tier V for SMGs, with the Suomi KP/-31 (yes, we had some of these)
  • tier I for tanks, with the 7TP (an upgraded Vickers 6 Ton, so a T-26 for the game purposes)

And you probably see how something like that can cause an issue without locking certain weapons to certain maps in some way.