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Im still pretty sure I spoke specifically about the “Weapon accuracy” which according to you is determined by spraying.

It is determinated by spraying, but:

  • without a recoil (sadly all we can do is to try to control recoil to emulate this)
  • while not moving, jumping etc.
  • in a weapon specific environment (for example you can’t hipfire AT rifle)

I thought you just said controlling the weapon is skill, so idk how does that fit to your

“weapon accuracy”

Definitely didnt need to.

Not really sure why but ok.

This is now slightly confusing, as I pointed out the exactly same to the assumed friend of yours that spraying like a retard isnt exactly a way to determine weapons accuracy.
Where you replied that spraying is indeed a good way to determine weapon accuracy.

And as Im now doing these scientifically proven weapon accuracy tests they are magically all wrong and shouldnt be sprayed like a retard.

So its completely fine to spray PPD to get crappy as possible accuracy as thats “weapon accuracy”

But doing same “scientifically proven weapon accuracy test” with lmg its entirely retarded ?

Did I forget something ?

Controlling weapon is a skill and that’s why accuracy tests should be done without recoil. But as it’s impossible to do in game now, we have to emulate this by controlling the recoil.

Don’t behave like a retard unless you are one. I’m sure you can clearly see difference between testing weapon accuracy (spray without recoil) and testing weapon recoil (spray with recoil).
Stop acting like you don’t see the difference.

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Ah gotcha, so my test with PPD is wrong because I did play like a normal human being and controlled the recoil by bursting as I instead should have sprayed like a retard to get bad as possible accuracy because we dont want soviet guns to seem too good or something like that ?

Well one could argue its quite retarded to even speak about this “weapon accuracy” if you dont even have a way to determine it as you said.
Dont get me wrong Im definitely not saying your argument / suggestion is retarded to start with as this is indeed the way weapons accuracy is tested IRL too.
In the army we even closed our eyes while spraying to get the maximum “weapon accuracy” without too much of human interference.

You were testing weapon accuracy in bursts that are unreliable in lenght. Actually you could do a macro with 3s long burst, then it would be possible to use it to compare weapons.
But still it’s not overall accuracy, it’s burst fire accuracy.

I agree. But we have to work with what we have.
Sigh the petition:

And I was doing EXACTLY by your rules the “Weapon accuracy” test on LMG but apparently it became retarded.
One could wonder is there little bit double standards here.

It looked like you just let the recoil do whatever it wants.
You didn’t even score 1 hit where the first shot always hits close to the point you aim at. Or at least that’s my experience.

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Ah so thats where it went wrong damn it. So its completely reliable way to determine PPD accuracy by using it like an absolute retard.
But german LMG you have to use like a proper humanbeing to get reliable “weapon accuracy” test ?
Should we also add that if any allied weapon is more accurated or in anyway better than german weapon its automaticly flawed test ? I mean that would remove alot of misconceptions.

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No, you have to use them in the same way: spray and control the recoil to make it non existent (the recoil).

Could you please stop acting like an idiot you aren’t? It’s not that hard to understand my point and I don’t belive you really can’t see what I mean.
You wrote this only to not agree with me even though I’m sure you understand my point and you know that you aren’t right. All you do now is repeat the same sentence over and over but in a different form.

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Well I cant argue with that. As this is exactly how weapons accuracy is determined IRL too.

Well, I guess im idiot as I have relatively hard time to understand your weapon accuracy tests since you kind of admitted it by yourself you cant even determine it. But maybe someday il figure out the logic behind this.

Well yeah, its slightly confusing as your assumed friend going full retard with PPD is reliable way to determine accuracy but me doing the exact same with LMG is apparently not reliable way to determine the weapon accuracy.
So pardon me ive still got alot to learn which is the appropriate amount of retardness to achieve actual weapon accuracy.

Great. So we try to do that, you try do that, and somehow we still argue.

He was controling recoil, you weren’t, simple as that. What’s the problem?

Exactly.

This, as you are supposed to go full retard to achieve the weapon accuracy so we get the weapons accuracy instead of skill.

But at the same time you are supposed to use skill ( Controlling weapon ) which is fairly contradictory.

So this leaves the question what is the correct amount of retardness to reliably achieve your weapon accuracy?

Dont get me wrong im 100% in with this test as its definitely 110% scientifically proven. But the hard part for me is to understand how retarded you have to be to achieve the most reliable weapon accuracy ?

I answered that argument 2 times already, you ignored it each time. So what should I tell you if you don’t listen?

Yes yes, and I specifically asked how do I know which is the correct amount of retardness ?
Because hypothetically if im really good at controlling spray it gives extremely controversial results as your assumed friend went full 9000 retard.
This would mean that 1 exactly same gun has 2 different accuracys it has your friends over 9000 retardness and my extra mildly retarded accuracy.
So what is the correct amount of retardness to achieve the best results ?

As you can expect, comparing weapon accuracy is very dependant on the amount of retardness achieved.
Each retard has has to individually test weapons, which he wants to compare, so that more or less the same amount of retardness is used during the test of each weapon. Test results achieved by two distinct retards can’t be compared as amount of retardness put into the tests isn’t equal.
As such, weapon accuracy test results can be compared only if said tests were done by the exact same retard.

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Totally nothing to do with the general PL opinion about germans being bad, right?
Hence obviously they cant have good weapon and hence it cant be unfair in game.

i don’t like this since any weapon can be good if you learn it’s strengths and weakness and play around it like i’ve actively went on an 11 kill streak with the kriegsmodell KAR and i believe most people don’t find it good, i’ve also topped scored while only using grease guns and carbines

Old saying - it’s a poor workman who blames his tools.

Player choices in this game outweigh any differences in weapons.

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dude quit feeding the retard he really thinks its ok for them to club if u unlocked the bar and made it fair he would cry and cry like the supremist incest baby he is. hell he was crying about the jumbo a week ago because he cant stomp every tank just quit feeding him

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