Normandy, another extreme poor balanced campaign

You are the first one that I ever heard saying MG34/42 is worse than BAR.
Also where is your FG42???
BAR as a LMG in this game performed more like a FG, but it is a LMG so is far more weaker than a universal FG.

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I was saying this long time ago after MG nerfs.

What FG 42?

I would love to see BAR is same category as FG 42 but developers decided another. So it’s an MG.

Category doesnt change stats. BAR has battle rifle stats, not the stats of a (L-M)MG.

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You forget about debuffs that BAR gives while FG 42 doesn’t.
And category is important since you can’t give BAR everyone while FG 42 yes.

In reality, Allies should nearly always beat the Axis. Sure, Axis has good stuff like the Panther or the FG but all that is rendered useless by one thing: Planes. Allies got a big advantage when it comes to those compared to Axis, it’s just that most players are subpar at them so it doesn’t feel like it.

To give you an idea, the P-38G-1 can easily one-shot anything from the Puma to the Panther with a single pair of rockets (of course, for good measure you want to shoot all 6 rockets). This is a Fighter plane that you unlock at lvl 4, even though its bugged and it takes up the Attacker slot meaning that the P47 can’t spawn. Its overall performance is at around the same level of the Bf 109 G-6, meaning that you should be beating the Bf 110 G-2 with relative ease most times.
There’s the A-20 which is actually pretty bad compared to other planes, but it still has 4 500kg bombs which can easily destroy tanks and everything around it.
Then there’s the P-38J-15 which is literally just a better P-38G-1, and this one actually takes up a Fighter slot so the P47 can spawn. This plane easily takes out anything the Axis has except for the Bf 109 G-10, while still having the easy tank-busting capacity.
Then there’s the hated (By Axis Players) P-47D-28, the best plane overall in the whole campaign (and maybe even the whole game). The Hvar rockets are like 10 mini nukes and the 500kg is for the overkill, both of this are effective against tanks even though I’d say its easier to kill with M8 rockets while in a dive. The only disadvantages of this plane are bugs; out of the 8 MGs only 5 actually fire (3 of the MGs in the right wing don’t), you can’t use it at 110 (WEP) indefinitely without the engine dying.
Adding to that, there’s the P-47D-22 from the event. It’s worse than the previous one because its stats are lower and it uses M8 rockets, but anyone at any level could have it. I am not aware if this one also has the same bugs, I wasn’t interested in unlocking it so I never did the event.
Finally, there’s the well-known P-51D at its full glory. I’d actually argue that the P-38J is a better option, but the P-51D doesn’t fall short with its 6 MGs and two 500kg bombs. This plane takes a bit more skill to use than the P-38J, so it can be harder to destroy tanks and shoot down planes in certain situations, but it doesn’t matter. Its two bombs will certainly shake the battlefield, and its browning machine guns being wing-mounted actually makes it easier to snipe pilots in long distances and in turns.

This doesn’t take into account the absurdly good PIAT, which shouldn’t be as good as it is. The Browning, which behaves more like an assault rifle than a LMG. The Jumbo, which every tank except the Panther and the StuG struggle with. The sniper Garand, which is arguably the best semi-automatic sniper in the whole game. The infamous M2 Carbine, which destroys in close-quarters and is decent at longer distances if you are good with it. The M10, which may be weak but will tear through anything. Ending with the M1 Thompson, which only has the Stg as the contestant for best SMG in the campaign.

The Axis falls short with all the stuff Allies have. The main problem in both sides is skill issue, even high level players can often be not as good as they should be.

It’s the main reason I stopped playing Normandy, even if Axis has fun bolties here. Planes are sending tactical nukes en masse, it’s just terribly annoying for people like me: I’m decent with boots, I’d say I’m very good with tanks… But I’m a complete liability with planes. This campaign indeed gives too much power to pilots… I just stay away. :confused:

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Its the oppossite for me in terms of Normandy. Jumbos brainlet like to camp in greyzone as usual, P47D destroying that 2 Panther A you mention and finally BARs. M2 and thompson are a rare sight tho

oh and tunisia ? suprisingly the AB-41 the italian starter tank reigns in the game. until a grant comes

I noticed that I’m the only one who uses them

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I only use that I’ve only seen match with someone else with the m1 and m2

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… Or my beloved crusader. grant is for pansies. it’s a good tank sure, but it’s SLOW and has such a high profile that any plane dropped bomb will explode it no matter where dropped. And… even with 2 good canons, the shells are mere regular AP doing NO post damage :stuck_out_tongue:

How dare you insult the Grant, it is a glorious amalgamation of guns and flawless in every way.

Normandy is my most played campaign as its my personal facorite theatre and what initially brought me in to the game…

The balance flip flops quite a bit. Starting out, the Puma and Bf-110 are undeniably better, but the Enfield and Ross are a significant upgrade over the Kar98, MAS-36 etc.
By level 10-12, The Garand is definitely better than the G43, but the Pz III is far superior to the M8… except the M8 can OHKO panthers from the front because HEAT is broken, while the Pz III cant pen the flat side of a sherman.

FNAB and MP40 are huge overkill to the M3/M3A1, but the BREN and Breda 30 are about equal… However the MG-34 and 42 are vastly superior to the BARs.
Scope G43 is given at the same level the americans get a second scope springfield (1903A4). Sherman is about equal to a Panzer IV, Jumbo is vastly superior to the Panzer IV H, panther far exceeds the pitiful M10.

It flip flops so damn much and its clear the devs were simply checking boxes on attractions. The thompsons are stupidly overpowered with the fire rate upgrade (as in, they surpass MG-34s)…

And at this point why bother playing normandy at all? Tunisia literally has ALL of the BEST equipment from Normandy, except it gives it out either much earlier (STEN given out at level 2 instead of level 22), or keeps it much more balanced. Plus, the tanks consist of italians (rip) and early pre war british designs, planes are crimped by their inability to carry large loads (thank god) and the maps are 10x better…
Plus you get AT rifles and easy access to punish camping tanks.

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OK :ok_hand:

Its true

Nope g43 is a little better thanks to a better sigth

Both have similar performance but pz3 obliviusly is better in crew survability, M8 dont kill panther from the front but can with a good hit amorack him (need luck or you need to know the area to hit), german tank instead for ammorack american one need to hit their side

Both are equal but m3a1 is a little better because the high accuracy and a modest rate of fire without upgrades

Breda is better because dont kill your FOW

BAR is not an MG but an automatic rifle you cant compare him with an MG (however if you want compare is huge better than them ask even other people if you want)

Semi-automatic scopes are shit for snipe, bolt-action are better for this

M10 IS a tank destroyer is here only for OHK panther

The thompson is not better than the german zk-383 so is OP in tunisia because of no good counter but in normady have 3 counter better than him

Wy you put tunisia? Is different thing and is not asked here

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git gud
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Well you can, it just takes a good shot and a bit of luck. Basically, you use the low velocity of the Howitzer to negate the curvature of the turret cheek and thus only have to pen an effective 80mm. The Scotts HEAT round can pen 89mm.

G43 is good but it has this tendency to not register a hit everytime i use it. has anyone experience this ?