OK, I admit that my previous statement was somewhat impulsive. After calming down, I checked again and couldn’t find any evidence that the Su system carried out the systematic execution of all sexual offenders. According to their wartime laws, such actions were usually handled by military courts, with convictions based on the severity of the crime, rather than being executed by shooting. Moreover, there was indeed a tacit approval from the top level, which is a historical fact. I apologize to you for my inaccurate statement earlier.
Indeed, after the Soviet army entered Germany in 1945, there were large-scale acts of sexual violence. According to historical scholars’ statistics, the number of victims may have exceeded one million. Such behavior was absolutely wrong and should not be excused under any pretext. However, we must also consider the context in which these crimes occurred: Nazi Germany implemented extremely cruel racial extermination and scorched-earth policies in the Soviet Union, resulting in the deaths of over 27 million Soviet people. Countless civilians suffered from massacres, abuse, and enslavement. Many relatives and compatriots of Soviet soldiers were killed by the German army. This profound collective trauma and the desire for revenge erupted in an extreme form during the final stage of the war. At the same time, there was a severe shortage of troops in the later stages of the war, and the Soviet army recruited a large number of prisoners of war and untrained new recruits, making military discipline control extremely difficult.
This is not an attempt to defend the crime, but rather to point out that in the extreme circumstances of war, human nature is often distorted, and atrocities often have a systematic nature. Similar behaviors also occurred among other allied forces - the sexual crimes committed by the US military against French women after the Normandy landing, the similar records of the British army in the German occupation zone, and the collective rapes carried out by the French army in southwestern Germany, all have historical records to verify. These behaviors are also unforgivable, but they were not remembered in the same way as the Soviet Union - not being generalized or labeled.
The Soviet Union made the greatest sacrifices and made the most decisive contributions in the fight against the Nazis during World War II. We cannot completely deny its overall role merely based on the crimes committed at the end of the war. Historical evaluation requires being comprehensive and objective; otherwise, it is prone to fall into emotional accusations. I have noticed that you seem to have a rather negative view of the Soviet Union. However, we should also recognize that no country was completely innocent or guilt-free in the war. What truly deserves reflection is how the war destroyed human nature, rather than simply judging one side in history based on today’s moral standards.
All good stuff but after the war I believe things have changed when we look at all the atrocities after the war and going forward into the future and up to the current day so maybe these lessons need to be taught more aggressively so we could try not to repeat them even though humanity is very problematic.
You said, “Do we really need to hold a memorial for every little thing during the war?” - But commemorating the 80th anniversary of the victory in World War II is already one of the biggest events.
This is not a “minor matter”, this is the most tragic war in human history, a lesson bought at the cost of countless lives and families. But in reality, DF even specially launched an avatar event and achievement for a hockey game. According to your logic, even a victory in a hockey game can be listed as an important achievement for celebration in the game. Shouldn’t the victory over fascism and the end of a global disaster be worthy of remembrance? So, in this case, would a victory in a hockey game be more important than the victory of World War II?
Moreover, the victory on the European battlefield on May 8, 1945 did not signify the true end of World War II. The war in the Asian theater was still ongoing. The Chinese people endured a full 14 years of bloody struggles until Japan surrendered, marking the true conclusion of this war. We cannot merely view the end of the war from a European perspective, while ignoring the sufferings endured by the Asian people and the tremendous sacrifices they made.
Memorialization is not to perpetuate hatred, but to prevent forgetting. Precisely because some people think “it’s all in the past” or “it’s no big deal”, historical tragedies may recur. The Chinese War of Resistance cost over 35 million casualties among both soldiers and civilians. This history is by no means trivial. Asia needs to be seen, and sacrifices need to be remembered - and this is precisely the significance of Victory Day.
In fact, I find this quite strange. Logically speaking, this should be an opportunity to introduce new activities, and there should be reasons to ask DF to add more good things and activities to the game. The main purpose was for the game itself. This was originally a great opportunity for an event. But when the day came, everything turned into criticizing “Soviet” and “not respecting Japan”, instead of discussing the game itself. I find this very confusing. When I proposed to hold an event in August, some people told me it was just a game-related thing and said that the Halloween event had already completely distorted everything.
People can’t make up their minds and considering this game is 8 years old I would say a lot of people are quite detached from the game and only care about what they want instead of looking at this game is what it should be and we lack any form of direction as well which doesn’t help.
I’m truly sorry sir, but I ain’t reading all of that. I simply lack the time at the moment.
Do you meanBP 4 or BP 3 - 2?
basically everything because if you’re fighting people who have everything and all the events stuff you end up not really having much of a game so the only ones who truly suffer are the new players while those who have everything get away with murder so I’m stuck in a situation where the game is not enjoyable and if I want competition I have to fight at a disadvantage or beat up people who can’t defend themselves.
In fact, I think it’s mainly an economic issue. The money earned by playing in the premium rooms is the same as that earned by playing in the lower rooms. This has led many people to choose the lower rooms to easily make money, and to bully those new players. But if new players don’t spend a lot of money, the amount of money they receive is among the lowest. Ah, this should also be an important reason for them to leave. In fact, I think the top rooms in Germany are very powerful. In terms of tanks and rifles. The recent update has not affected Germany.
I come from a time when strategic gameplay actually mattered—when tactics weren’t just optional, they were essential. The reason the German faction feels so intimidating now is because most of us who’ve stuck around have figured out how to exploit the system or bend mechanics to our advantage. But that just makes matches dull.
And when we do run into opponents who can actually challenge us, they’re usually the ones abusing every possible advantage. The problem is, we can’t fight back effectively because the weapon setups are inherently skewed. The devs clearly know the Allied and Soviet player bases are weak, so they’ve quietly buffed those factions in subtle ways that only show up in real gameplay—player to player.
You’re right. In the end of the game, apart from the equipment, it’s the number of players that ultimately determines the outcome. If, after a round of play, we have two more survivors on our side compared to the other side, I think it would be easier for us to win. But I’m thinking, if the equipment for this division or the level is not good enough, and the gameplay is not as comfortable as that of the opposing faction, would this also lead to a decrease in the number of players, resulting in no one playing at that level in this faction? This kind of vicious cycle.
YES because they killed much more than 170,000 people all over the world, especially in China.
they deserve it, or only 2 bombs arent enough for jp
Stop that hate, bro. You didn’t live through that time. It’s been over 80 years since that event.
which is why at the time it was celebrated as victory in europe and not the end of the war. they latter had victory against japan, flags were made and everything. at least thats how the Americans saw it i dont know how the uk and ussr saw it. also stop celebrating victims i am sick of keeping to see who suffered more as part of there contribution to victory. the germans and japanese and italian were not defeated metal of gear style by the souls of the dead.
It’s also been 80 years since we dropped the 2 nukes on them. Also there is generally no hate in that sentence, it is a fact that the Japanese murdered many. You also didn’t live through that time.
Yeah, but I’m not trying to defend that event to the death xD
It literally hurt like you ordered both attacks.
I still think it should be celebrated as it’s when the war ended not because we bombed the japs. (But an Enola gay decal would be awesome)
Well, this thread turned a bit sour… bit like my Eaton Mess after adding vodka and tequilla to it xx
Sour? Never heard that before
Really? ? Not like apple sours or fizzy sour sweets or a topic of conversation that starts light hearted turns into a brawl? Xx