Did Enlisted completely abandon at least small preservation of historical accuracy?
I am aware that Enlisted had no chance of being historical game after the merge of all campaigns. However can developers explain the uniforms of new premium squad with Mosin Nagant flamethrowers? As far as I am aware, those uniforms are from Cold War, or at least they tried to poorly copy them. I am quite familiar with uniformity and arms of the Red Army during Interwar period and Great Patriotic War and I can say I have no idea where they could possibly pull these uniforms from.
The first one is different coat intended to be primarily used by officers that is already present in the game, only difference is that one on picture is buttoned. The second picture, looks like something really different, look at the material and buttoning at end of sleeves. Either way, I think it is really misleading to add these coats into game.
and while i can’t find the exact uniforms either, we do know that those are indeed M41 jackets with vatnik liner.
which you can see in the afghhan war and cold war era jackets being similar but having modern buttons and way more pouches.
with that being said, you’d be surprised. but enlisted has also original made and / or inspired items that are not fully historical, but close enough.
imo, it doesn’t really break the immersion.
and as long it provides more cosmetics, i don’t really see the issue.
but as far as it goes, that’s not cold war era.
granted, you’ll find more pics in that conflict due to being more popular. but as shown above, it did existed an early version.
Don’t talk nonsense. Cold War infantry uniforms were simply modified versions of WWII uniforms. Erica has clearly explained that these are WWII Soviet tank crew jackets. So don’t use the absurd notion of a son resembling his father to question the accuracy of Enlisted’s WWII clothing.
Enlisted from 2021 would be really disappointed with Enlisted today. Developers loved the authenticity so much that they decided to even mention Podolsk cadets for Moscow campaign (the ones that have black insignia with small red outliner at top of it). Either way, I am not really fan of these “inspirations” and “partially historical” stuff, but I guess there is no going back now.
eh… as i have been playing since 2020, i can’t really say it would.
mostly because enlisted remains pretty much the same as far authencitiy goes.
it’s just a " feel ".
granted. it didn’t had chinese soldiers in places that they have never been.
or any other nation that today’s enlisted allow.
but truth be told, much like i tell veekay, historical accuracy was never a stronger point in enlisted since it’s conception.
despite what the marketing team loved to mislead people.
with that being said, it was rather necessary. because a game of this scale requires all sales that i can pull i guess.
and being limited to authenticity in it’s purest historical accuracy form wouldn’t have survived to this day.
while i don’t like them either, it just allows the game to be afloat.
and i don’t think an anachronistic item really ruins it unless you’re a HA purist like me or veekay lol.
but, keeps the going forward, and maybe, through mods and what not, we will be able to fix it eventually.
I purchased CBT bundle back in December 2020. I had the chance to see the game shift from its authentic core (obviously the game was never 100% accurate - gears were incomplete and mixed up, also usage of questionable arms in large numbers), however it still did not want to become eventual copycat of other WWII games that gave up on authenticity completely, that was the actual point of Enlisted existing, or at least that is how it looked like when I have been checking Enlisted progress every month on their website since 2016. With that being said, I am aware the game is not trying to be authentic, however those are mistakes that could have been easily avoided.
Excuse me, what is a vatnik liner? All I know is that a vatnik is a quilted jacket filled with cotton wool. Actually, the name of this jacket comes from the word meaning cotton wool.
By the way, I won’t tell you what this jacket from the WW2 is called, but the jacket from the Afghan era is called a bushlat. But I know that the bushlat was the name given to the Soviet marines jacket during the Second World War.
Now I’ve delved into the topic of bushlat. Originally, this word referred to a specific model of short coat. In fact, until the time of the Soviet Marine during World War II, it even remained a short coat. However, as we can see, by the afgan era, this item of clothing had lost its original meaning.
My point is, the uniforms displayed in game by this squad has really questionable existence and no one managed to prove their actual existence, only two photos were sent from historical archives and none of them resemble the ones in game. I do believe they just made fictional coat and now try to justify it.
You’re just nitpicking. Erica has already provided relevant historical photos. Unless you can prove these photos of the clothing are fake, you can’t use established facts to say that these are Cold War-era garments.
The game contains a lot of clothing that poorly replicates its historical origins. If the model does not look like the photo, then it is most likely a model problem.
We need evidence, right? If you can also provide relevant historical photos proving that the flamethrower operator was wearing a Soviet infantry jacket from the Cold War era, not a tank jacket from World War II, then I’ll be completely convinced. But that’s only if you can provide the relevant historical photos.