Honestly, this whole matter is quite troublesome, yet we have to face it anyway—it’s simply how it should be. The game ought to have six battle rating divisions in total.
In high-tier matches, the gap between late propeller fighters and jet aircraft is extremely drastic and creates a total divide. Many transitional vehicles between Rank 3 and Rank 4 cannot be properly included due to large gaps in battle rating, which reduces the variety of playable content.
If we want to extend the game’s lifespan, this adjustment will be necessary in the future.
Speaking of which, I suddenly remembered a Sichuan-made submachine gun. I’m going to make a post about it later; feel free to check it out if you’re interested.
They could add BR6, but I seriously doubt there’s any weaponry suitable for that BR level, since the top tier is BR5. However, if they added high-capacity semi-automatics, like 20-round rounds, to BR5 and moved the automatic weapons to BR6, or if they didn’t do that with BR4, I don’t see how to fill that intermediate gap. Alternatively, they could just add two more weapons of each type to BR5 and make it their own BR level.
So no to it’s BR being lowered, just because it looks bad? I mean I won’t deny it’s bad looking, but is that reason enough to prevent it from being useful?
Not trying to argue, just confused why appearance should impact balance.
Idk, I feel that might be the more controversial of the two to lower to BR3, but I’m not all that against it.
Well I tried to argue that at least one version of the Jagdpanzer IV should be made viable - and since L70 is the most iconic I can rest my case now.
If we ignore my hatred for that (A) version for a moment, I’d argue that it should not move to BR3 - for the same reason why a Jumbo should not move to BR3: its weakspot can be hidden by cover making the vehicle practically immortal in its own BR.
This thing having the same BR as Panther(which is BR 4) is a joke.
There’s a very good reason that in WT this thing sits at even lower BR than the Jagdpanzer 4 with L/43 gun.
If you ask me, i think it is reasonably armored but not overly armored on BR 3. All BR 3 infantry hand held AT weapons can penetrate the sloped frontal armor, it will provide a good protection against enemy medium tanks but at the same time TD gun on the same BR such as 76mm from M18 and M10 will have no problem going thru it.
For being a casemated TD i think that’s a reasonable protection to have since the gun it has is basically just a 75mm gun from Panzer 4 H. The only issue i can think of it is that when Soviet fights it, soviet doesn’t have a gun with high penetration on low BR(There’s KV-2 but it’s not exactly penetrating it with AP so i’ll leave that one)but then again, they have the most well armored tanks on BR 3 out of all 4 factions such as T-34E and KV-1 so i think it’s sort of fair in the end.
Or perhaps T-34 57 able to penetrate it. Maybe. I haven’t tested it yet so once i get home i shall conduct a test.
The T-34/57 can definitely penetrate the front armor of the short-barreled Jagdpanzer IV. That said, you’re right — if this vehicle gets moved down a battle rating, quite a few tanks will struggle to pen it.
To balance things out, we could bring the open-top SU-85A and SU-85 down to BR 2/3. Frankly, the Soviet side currently has excessive firepower while German vehicles lack adequate armor. Many players feel Soviet firepower at BR 3 has no proper counterplay. Even the KV-2 can only get overpressure damage on this tank by aiming at the sloped roof above the driver’s compartment below the gun barrel, which makes it rather awkward to fight.
I’ve been advocating to lower this tank to BR 3. Once that’s done, we can also push for the better-armored German Sturmtiger and ISU-152 to be placed at BR 3 in the future.
Yes, I made that post out of frustration that both Jagdpanzer versions were pointless.
Now that L70 is BR4, I dont care that much about L48 being “just a grind through”, especially since L70 is more Iconic.
That being said, as many have pointed out, a potential Hetzer might fill BR3 better because of its much weaker - almost pathetic structure thickness, while still having the same frontal armor of Jagdpanzer IV L48.
Not to mention various STUG versions like Stuh42 could fit much better into BR3 anyways.
Okay that’s understandable. Altho there’s one thing that needs to be corrected. Hetzer is even more well protected when it comes to the frontal protection against enemy tanks as it has 60mm frontal armor sloped in 60 degree which means that even 85mm from T-34 85 and 76mm gun from US tanks will have huge problem going thru it while Jagdpanzer 4 L/48 got 60mm frontal armor sloped in 50 degree IIRC which is much less protective than that of Hetzer.
It will likely be a long wait. This tank is well-suited for high-tier squads and could be sold for a limited time as seen in War Thunder. The Panzer IV/75 can also be placed at BR3, balanced with strong penetration and weak armor. These vehicles have received no updates since the map merge, which is a real shame.
