Move the Kretz P13 BR2 -> BR3

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It’s a semi auto rifle that does 23 damage.

Because of that, we can instead picture this gun as a bolt action rifle with 170 RPM, which is around 250% faster firing than the fastest full damage bolt action rifle

This really doesn’t deserve to be in BR2 because of its damage combined with ROF.

It should be moved to BR3 because it essentially plays as a bolt action rifle with 170 RPM which has no business being in BR1 matches.

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I get what you mean far as allied BR2 powercreep goes, this is a pretty mild example (see Thompson 7.63).

This might be a hot take but rather than uptiering the Kretz, I wish all semi autos would get damage buffs to be more like it. The Kretz just feels so much better than most of them, and it’s outright ridiculous guns like the Lee Enfield No.4 feel so much better than the Garand. The damage shouldn’t be the same and they would need other reworks but it should at least be able to consistently kill and not just down. It makes guns with worse reloads like the G41 basically pointless.

The TT semi autos were so universally adopted they should be straight up better and not a glorified sidegrade, we have the BR system anyway so they don’t need the campaign balance to make them and bolties equally viable.

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I wouldn’t be opposed if semi auto rifles got a damage buff, but anything above 20.0 is too much for their rate of fire.

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All 5 round bolt action rifles should be BR 1.
Any bolt action rifle with higher than 5 rounds should be BR 2.
This has 5 rounds but is semi auto….
Therefore the math means it should be BR 2.

Another post lacking logic but hey at least it’s not you crying about body armour.

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Ohh not to mention that it is also a battle pass weapon which makes it rare

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I kinda feel like that BR2 semi-auto rifles are actually too good for BR2 but not good enough for BR3.

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Do I live rent free in your head or something? Honestly I’m so flattered

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BR2.5 :thinking:?

something along those lines.
There is an obvious gap between BR3 and BR4 tanks.
BR2 and BR3 submachine guns are also way too overcompressed.

BUT instead of adding a new BR, no up/downtiers would solve 95% of these balance issues as well.

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Kretz P13 BR2 → BR3
M1 Grand BR3 → BR2

:eyes:

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The whole semi rifle balance is a mess since they added 15.3 dmg semis at BR II, while stuff like the G41 or SVT-38 still does 14.4 dmg at BR III.

I think semis need a dmg rebalance in general, there is a lot of arbitrary damages differences between similar rifles, Italian and Japanese semis suffer a lot from this. Of course, stuff like ROF, recoil and dispersion should be different to try to make weapon unique or appropriate to their BR but stuff like Fedorov and KoKo rifle doing more damage that both SVD (premium and battlepass) and the SVT-38 is kind of ridiculous.

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Bait used to be believable. Are you aware of the mechanic that lets you stay ads while cycling ur next round?

I’m aware. Makes no difference when I can ADS fast, shoot and ADS again.

Someone doesn’t know how the game works after four years

I’m well aware how it works champ, I’m saying it makes no difference with how a bolt action performs.

In either way, I’m very appreciative for every reply you send here. All it does it boosts the visibility of the threads I want to bring attention to

Please keep giving me attention, I love it!

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Says the guy defending body armor.

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So u were defending it by attacking people against it.