Thats my take - IF KV2 would be lowered to BR3, then you would give Soviets the thing they need - power to fight BR4 and BR5 vehicles.
KV1 and T34 STZ are absolutely menacing threats to deal with in both BR2 and BR3 matches - but they become completely useless in BR4. They cant even scratch Tigers and Panthers. T34 57 does have more penetration and can attack “okayish” Panthers and Tigers frontally, but in return looses guaranteed one hit kill nukes of regular T34.
I see KV2 the same way - both KV1 and KV2 will always one hit kill everything, but KV2 reloads much much longer and as such simply has much less power in BR3 and BR2 matches.
It literally trades infantry support power and anti tank power for being not useless in higher BRs.
If KV2 would get added to BR3, I believe this would actually be a nerf to soviet tank power - specifically because some soviet players would bring in a KV2 just in case they get matched against BR4.
It would help the game flow in two parts at the same time - it would lower some of the KV1 dominance and help soviet players to not have zero chance when being uptiered.
Alright, I’ll rephrase. You cannot pen anything frontally. )
What you have to hope for is overpressuring the top plate. Sure, you can get nice oneshots once in a while, but objectively its a meme tank for a reason. When an enemy can fire off 10 rounds while your 1 HE has a high chance of dissapearing, + you have no anti-infantry capability at all, you aren’t exactly being OP.
There is no overpressure in this game - KV2 one hit kills Tiger II H guaranteed when shooting the turret low enough so that the explosion penetrates down into the crew and ammo part of the tank.
so you are complaining about tank whose whole gimmick is about penetrating upper or lower plate about not being able to frontally penetrate tanks cause it only has 48mm penetration. with your logic putting we should be putting it on BR1 with rest of the tanks that have similar penetration(e.g. pzr. 3E or pzr. 3B).
why do i have to explain devs decisions? if you check forum history, you will find me advocating for tanks to get better ammo when paired against tanks that they cant penetrate. BR3 should be able to penetrate BR4 even if they get shitty APCR ammo.
and i already said that i would put KV1 in BR4 if it had better gun(aka better penetration suited for BR4).
germany doesnt need anything in BR2 if KV-s arent in BR3. soviets could get APCR ammo on BR3 and then they could penetrate anything german on BR4.
considering that we should have ±1BR MM, BR3 doesnt need to face BR5. for BR3 soviets they could get APCR rounds for big cats.
problem with KV2 is that devs just dont think about introducing tanks in the game. KV2 is tank that is simply a meme and doesnt have its place cause it is too armored for lower tier and too slow firing for higher tier. it just doesnt translate well into the game. same thing happened with KT(H) which simply didnt have corresponding counter in any nation and they pushed for its introduction. or when they introduced jumbo with its counterpart being some pz4(H?), or when they introduced panther/tiger with their counterparts being m10 and m18.
if people were afraid of BR4 big cats, they would use t34-57, rather than KV2.
maybe if i actually played BR4… havent played weapons from BR4 from premerge period.
i also want pz4 with long guns on BR4 and their armor is meaningless on BR4… it is also meaningless on BR3… so what is exactly your point? we should move pz4 with long guns to BR2…
my logic is quite simple. KV1 and KV2 are shit tanks for this game cause they translate terribly into BR system. if they only faced BR3 they would be ok for BR3. but cause they face BR2 they are too armored for BR3 and shit for BR4. so i would rather them be shit on BR4, rather then make them hard to kill on BR3 when against BR2 players.
also this is opinion is not only for KV tanks, but for all tanks in the game when they have alternative for some BR.
If pz3N was too tough nut to crack for delicate soviets at BR2, with what logic you justify KV that is arguably the hardest tank to kill ?
Even the KT2 is easier to kill with detpack than KV.
